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 31 
 on: Today at 05:50:45 PM 
Started by BernardLanguillier - Last post by jjj
So during a cease-fire Hamas detonates a suicide bomb and grabs an IDF soldier and we're not supposed to call it a kidnapping? How about a "war crime?" In my 26 years of military service I always understood that a cease-fire means you stop fighting until the cease-fire is over. You don't detonate bombs, you don't fire rockets, and you don't grab your opponents. If you do, it's a violation of your oath. I'd say that "kidnapping" is too weak a word to describe what happened.
Cease fire means pause in shooting at each other. They are still at war with each other, so grabbing another soldier is not a kidnapping but a capture of an enemy soldier, which may well be a breach in the cease fire.
Kidnapping sounds like the language the Israelis have been media trained to use, as talked about in my link in prior post.

 32 
 on: Today at 05:45:00 PM 
Started by BernardLanguillier - Last post by jjj
Why is this a "kidnapping" and not just the capture of a prisoner of war? If Hamas sends fighters thru a tunnel into Israel and the IDF nabs them, is this also a kidnapping?
Maybe my earlier post will explain this.

Here's an interesting article on how to market genocide.

"Dr Luntz cites as an example of an "effective Israeli sound bite" one which reads: "I particularly want to reach out to Palestinian mothers who have lost their children. No parent should have to bury their child."
Well here's a thought - stop killing them!

 33 
 on: Today at 05:43:09 PM 
Started by tingyat - Last post by tingyat
Hi, thanks for replies received thus far.

@mlewis - regarding the OS I'm using - Windows 8.1. Not to sure why this issue, if indeed it is an issue and a personal one at that, would be font or OS specific? I'm really keen to know - via LuLa and elsewhere. I mean, if "南丫島" (the traditional Chinese for Lamma Island) can work here, then why not in LR?

@digitaldog - Andrew, as in the above, no issue in copying and pasting foreign characters here. Then, why in LR? Don't have this issue with either Capture One or Idimager's Photo Supreme. Because these two applications are European in origin, I'm guessing that they seem to be a little more accommodating in this regard?

As for this issue being a bug, this is something of a "deal killer" for me. For me, keywords are king. I'm happy to work with software applications that enable. Seems like with this "bug", LR is now dictating what I can't do rather than helping me further my efforts. Just a thought.

If anything else comes up elsewhere, will come back to provide any useful feedback on this matter.

Cheers - Rogan 

 34 
 on: Today at 05:12:48 PM 
Started by Dave (Isle of Skye) - Last post by Misirlou
I was in a remote part of Thailand about 15 years ago, and in the local market, there were several vendors selling hand-painted copies of that image. There were varying degrees of skill involved in their execution, of course. I decided right then and there that I'd had enough.

Don't get me wrong; I think it's a spectacular photo. Nothing about what others have done with/to the work diminishes the original in any way. I just don't want to see it a lot more.

I could mention many others too.

 35 
 on: Today at 05:08:28 PM 
Started by BernardLanguillier - Last post by Isaac
Refusal to divide something does not constitute a claim of ownership?

Is that the Israel they chose?

 36 
 on: Today at 05:01:27 PM 
Started by Dave (Isle of Skye) - Last post by Dave (Isle of Skye)
I know what you mean, Dave. It's a great picture, but it's been pushed a bit too often and too hard. I sometimes give a lecture on photographers in which I use this picture to illustrate a point. I'll ask my audience: "What is it that makes this picture so striking?" Almost always the answer comes back: "The girl's green eyes." So then I pop up a version of the picture with brown eyes. It's equally effective. Finally, I pop up a B&W version, which, it turns out, is most effective of all. Eventually we get into a discussion about why the picture's so effective with or without green eyes. It's an interesting question.

Thank goodness someone agrees with me to some extent and as I said above, it is a really stunning image, so perhaps it's just me.

Dave

 37 
 on: Today at 05:00:17 PM 
Started by BernardLanguillier - Last post by RSL
Why is this a "kidnapping" and not just the capture of a prisoner of war? If Hamas sends fighters thru a tunnel into Israel and the IDF nabs them, is this also a kidnapping?

So during a cease-fire Hamas detonates a suicide bomb and grabs an IDF soldier and we're not supposed to call it a kidnapping? How about a "war crime?" In my 26 years of military service I always understood that a cease-fire means you stop fighting until the cease-fire is over. You don't detonate bombs, you don't fire rockets, and you don't grab your opponents. If you do, it's a violation of your oath. I'd say that "kidnapping" is too weak a word to describe what happened.

 38 
 on: Today at 04:58:35 PM 
Started by BernardLanguillier - Last post by Slobodan Blagojevic
... There's nothing absurd about new immigrants feeling strong commitment to the country they've chosen.

Your selective quotation changed that feeling of commitment to mean ownership.

Ah, Isaac, you hairsplitopath!

So, I mistook patriotic commitment for ownership? So your quotes were meant just to extol the virtues of new immigrants' patriotism? The warm, fuzzy feeling they have about their new country? The romance behind their visit to the “Sderot cinema”?

Yes, it is possible to have commitment without a sense of ownership, as in: I am committed to my new country, whatever shape and form it might have after a negotiated settlement. But that is hardly what is going on there. And we could have continued arguing between commitment and ownership indefinitely, had it not been for your beloved context that said:

"They can't imagine any historical or other claims that would justify dividing it."


Refusal to divide something does not constitute a claim of ownership? Again, like toddlers: "It's mine and I do not want to share it" or "I found it first, it's mine."



 39 
 on: Today at 04:52:16 PM 
Started by BernardLanguillier - Last post by PeterAit
If we make take a moment for a deep breath, I would like to offer two quotes that relate to a lot of this thread (and to a lot of life in general):

"I am not young enough to know everything" - Oscar Wilde

"Often wrong, but never in doubt" - Unknown

 40 
 on: Today at 04:51:31 PM 
Started by Dave (Isle of Skye) - Last post by RSL
I know what you mean, Dave. It's a great picture, but it's been pushed a bit too often and too hard. I sometimes give a lecture on photographers in which I use this picture to illustrate a point. I'll ask my audience: "What is it that makes this picture so striking?" Almost always the answer comes back: "The girl's green eyes." So then I pop up a version of the picture with brown eyes. It's equally effective. Finally, I pop up a B&W version, which, it turns out, is most effective of all. Eventually we get into a discussion about why the picture's so effective with or without green eyes. It's an interesting question.

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