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« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2006, 05:51:47 PM »
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My RG account was deleted/blocked simply because I said in one of the forums that some people have been deleted lately. Boom, as soon as I said that, I too was a goner.

Rob Galbraith and Mike Sturk have some real problems and frankly, are totally jerks.
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Anyway, I'm still interested in all this MF stuff, I think there is som eMF kit in my future - I could almost imagine getting an Aptus 65 for my SWC ...

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« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2006, 06:32:12 PM »
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I don't find the response here regarding "RG banning"  frivolous in any way.
The confusion and frustration  speaks volumes.
In looking back at the threads in RG medium format forum, I see a high level of discusssion between professionals, which I personally felt was an infomation goldmine. I saw nothing "crazy". ....But I guess those threads have been deleted..... ; )

In the aftermath, Its absurd !!! that well meaning photogs have been deleted or banned for JUST asking about or discussing banning......

Well kudos to ML & all at luminous for letting us express ourselves.
Perhaps this forum will benefit from "migrating" talent & experience.

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« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2006, 07:46:39 PM »
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There are things that can be done. For example, writing to the advertisers on the RG site, explaining what happend and that you feel they should be aware of what they are supporting, etc.
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That's an excellent idea! Even if we all sign a single "form" letter. Count me in.
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« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2006, 10:11:07 PM »
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soon, there will be zero users left over there:

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Just Rob and Mike left twiddling each others thumbs.

Everyone is leaving in droves and word is getting around in the pro and consumer photo communities that www.robgalbraith.com is a place to avoid and not support. Their advertisers will be catching on shortly and I encourage everyone to write to the advertisers. I did.
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« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2006, 11:15:50 PM »
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After reading this thread I feel like I'm the last one to finally figure out where everyone went! I've been on RG site for 3 or 4 years and have found it to be the best, until last month. It's great to see so many names of people I feel like I know are here on this site. I could'nt figure out where they all went! Now when I go to the "Medium Format Digital" forum on RG it shows about 3 to 4 people viewing. Sad, but at least I think I have found a new home for learning and sharing from some great photographers.

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« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2006, 02:47:59 AM »
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Just joined LL this morning... not banned yet from RG.

But I think Michael Kravit is now sailing close to the wind and a number of us have supported his views.

I think RG is the crazy one for being willing to lose so many excellent contributors.  (I don't think that this language is immoderate, given his own comments).

I am now really close to my MFDB purchase and I wouldnt be where I was without the help of quite a few of the banned people.

Perhaps the manufacturers should talk to RG about his policy as it is doing their business no good at all.

It may only be a rumour that the presence of advertisers has influenced the moderation on that forum. Either way, the rumour will happen simply because of the presence of advertising.

Overall the vendors are helped immensely by open forums. Sure. If a particular product   does not come up to the mark, then an open forum will savagely attack it. But then the vendor knows instantly what the market perception is, and can put it right.

And in any case. There are as many positions and opinions on different products are there are photographers. Manufacturers can only gain from openness if their products are up to scratch.

It would probably be hurtful to me to read a forum full of my ex-clients views of me! But boy would it help me improve my work and my business.

Anyway... to quote

"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”"
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« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2006, 04:05:29 PM »
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What a shock, seems that post is gone. Those boys are busy as ever.
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« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2006, 04:19:08 PM »
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What a shock, seems that post is gone. Those boys are busy as ever.
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I believe I was a party to that post. Michael Kravit was asking where everyone had gone. There were some other posts expressing interest also. I posted that a lot of us have ended up here. Also wrote a PM to Michael in case he didn't get back to the thread before it disappeared. Woke up this morning and the thread was gone. Presto! Like magic.


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« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2006, 05:11:35 PM »
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Well, this morning I found that I was banned for participating in that thread. In response to Michael Kravit's post, I had written that we are all guests in RG's forums, and one guest could ask why one of the other guests had left. Apparently you can't ask that question..

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« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2006, 07:21:17 PM »
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Yea Kravit got kicked off this am.  I was amazed that thread lasted as long as it did.  For a while I though RG and MS (is that Mrs. G) had gone soft.
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« Reply #90 on: April 05, 2006, 09:32:08 PM »
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Quote from: James Russell,Mar 23 2006, 01:54 AM
I love the "Crazy People" quote.

Really do.

Actually let me look this up on google.

cra·zy   Audio pronunciation of "crazy" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (krz)
adj. cra·zi·er, cra·zi·est

   1. Affected with madness; insane.
   2. Informal. Departing from proportion or moderation, especially:
       
Hi James
Glad you are back really missed your posts on RG. So I just joined this one.

Thanks Denis Montalbetti  
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« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2006, 03:47:18 PM »
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Dennis,
good to see you here as well!
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« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2006, 04:25:10 PM »
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I just signed up for this forum too and also just sent an email to the admin over at RG asking to delete my account.  Hopefully he will do this!!  I too would love to sign a letter to send to these advertisers who are currently supporting RG
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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2006, 04:30:53 PM »
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I just signed up for this forum too and also just sent an email to the admin over at RG asking to delete my account.  Hopefully he will do this!!  I too would love to sign a letter to send to these advertisers who are currently supporting RG
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They have a new trick. They must have spotted my IP address and I can't log on (well of course I can, I have multiple ways of getting on the web). Anyway, if we can get a list together of the advertisers to hit, I'd be willing to draft a letter. In fact, I leave tomorrow for the WPPI show. Not sure if anyone of any stature will be there representing his advertisers but heck, they need to know that censorship at this level is un-American (or un-whatever country you wish to use). Time for the "scorched earth" tactics. <G>
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« Reply #94 on: April 07, 2006, 05:25:50 PM »
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I just signed up for this forum too and also just sent an email to the admin over at RG asking to delete my account. Hopefully he will do this!! I too would love to sign a letter to send to these advertisers who are currently supporting RG

good luck with that.  I sent 2 mails asking politely to be removed and was ignored until I went on the forum and asked to be removed publicly.  I'm convinced that they were doing some kind of damage control by ignoring private email requests so that the exodus seemed smaller than it actually was.

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« Reply #95 on: April 07, 2006, 05:46:49 PM »
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I'm convinced that they were doing some kind of damage control by ignoring private email requests so that the exodus seemed smaller than it actually was.
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As long as the exodus is larger, we win.
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« Reply #96 on: April 07, 2006, 07:02:31 PM »
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I guess I am going to have to go for a post to see if I can't just get kicked out...... Might as well make a public statement.....
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« Reply #97 on: April 09, 2006, 09:45:16 PM »
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RG has been so boring without all you "banned ones"!!! I think I will go back and post about the creative exodus and get banned to. We should be able to say any dame thing we like about photography, or what's left of it. It makes my day to find this site.
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« Reply #98 on: April 10, 2006, 07:54:31 PM »
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As most know my initial post was deleted from RG, my next post was deleted and I was banned. A pity but the loss of these wonderul guys like Russell and Tucker, etc is really RG's loss not ours.

I have been very busy with work so I have not posted much. LL is a wonderful forum and I appreciate MR for allowing us the space to congregate ;-)

My suggestion is to leave RG alone.  Being vendictive and writing to his advertisers is not productive and certainly not worth our time. My suggestion would be to build the interest here and make this forum the place where MFDB users really want to be.

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« Reply #99 on: April 15, 2006, 03:01:49 PM »
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Well,it looks like RGforums has some other problems. As of today, they're not accepting new posts and the forums are for sale.

Too bad, really.

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I have been very busy with work so I have not posted much. LL is a wonderful forum and I appreciate MR for allowing us the space to congregate ;-)

My suggestion is to leave RG alone.  Being vendictive and writing to his advertisers is not productive and certainly not worth our time. My suggestion would be to build the interest here and make this forum the place where MFDB users really want to be.

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