Should MF backs have killer screens

[Sami Kulju]

I have just wasted 15 mins of my time going to a non-existent web site; then figuring out that the URL is bogus, found the right one; browsed to the correct address and search the hell out to locate a sample RAW file to no avail.

Henry
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Hi Henry!

I checked the Leaf site and found the files in 25 secs... but then again, I was born under lucky stars...

here is the link:

[a href=\"http://www.leafamerica.com/download_images_form.asp]http://www.leafamerica.com/download_images_form.asp[/url]

You just write your name and email adress, press submit and there you go!
Next page You can choose what files to download.

For other posters in this thread:

Personally I feel it a bit strange that ppl here in this forum are so strong with words? I found the previous posts confusing and rude - specially when people are mentioned by their names.

I used to spend a lot of my time in RG medium format forum. For reasons already mentioned in other threads I too came here to seek for alternatives - but this thread makes me wonder if this can be a forum where I would spend my time. And yes - it´s my choice to make..

Maybe I was just raised old fashioned way?

regards,

Sami

[Henry Goh]

Sami,

Thank you!

At least now I have some files to check out.

Henry

[GabiHirit]

"For other posters in this thread:
Personally I feel it a bit strange that ppl here in this forum are so strong with words? "

Reading some of the previous posts I also had this feeling .I hope it won't become a habit .

[mtomalty]

I'm with you on this,Sami.

After just a few days posting here the trend does seem to be moving to more confrontation,
often without cause.

People with no,or next to no contact,with certain products who come in swinging at reps
will do nothing but drive away input from the company side.  We may not neccessarily like
the answers but we should be counting ourselves fortunate that there is ANY presence on
a public forum from a manufacturer. Interaction between corporate interests and pro
photogs was exactly what made the RG medium format forum so valuable and if the
trend continues here then I suspect we'll lose that potential before it really gets off
the ground.

I'm closing in on my DB decision and Leaf is at the front of the pack specifically because
of the excellent service I, who doesn't even own one of their products, has received.
Yair,from Leaf UK shot specific images to address some of my concerns and sent me
the RAWs on DVD in Montreal.  

Similarly,Vistek (the Canadian Phase rep) has also gone beyond the normal 'protocol' for
making backs and files available to me to better evaluate their product.

Mark

[izaack]

Ms. Dalit Boutboul, with all due respect, not only do you need to work on your marketing knowledge, you need a heapful of help in public relations. This is not the way to respond to criticism in public, whether justified or not. It is simply not professional.

You got Leaf America's URL wrong and you did not refer to Leaf's own world-wide URL : www.leaf-photography.com. So I believe Edmund when he said that you did not know what RAW was. I would say that you are pretty inept as a marketing manager.

If I were Edmund Ronald, a letter would be on its way to the Chairman of Eastman Kodak in Rochester, about the inappropriate response from the Marketing Manager of one of its subsidiaries.

[eronald]

Ms. Dalit Boutboul, with all due respect, not only do you need to work on your marketing knowledge, you need a heapful of help in public relations.
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Here is an article I wrote last year about the MF situation at the time.
[a href=\"http://www.publish.com/article2/0,1895,1840050,00.asp]http://www.publish.com/article2/0,1895,1840050,00.asp[/url]

I followed up with a call to Trine Voss, VP for sales and marketing at Phase One. She really, really didn't share my views, but she certainly knew her product, was tough and direct in telling me she thought I was wrong, and -guess what ?- I printed what she said and added to her company's visibility. Oh, and by the way, did I say she knew her product?  I think that knowing your product and answering questions directly helps getting your message across.
http://www.publish.com/article2/0,1895,1843030,00.asp

Edmund