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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2006, 02:07:29 PM »
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James,

 I have made some postcard-size testcharts for the little Selphy, profiling improves the color - if you want I'll run a profile for you for free, for aulde lang syne.

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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2006, 09:15:03 PM »
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Thanks James for the info. I purchased a laptop stand from The Lap Top Stand. I am also looking at the www.digitalcamerabattery.com to run my MacBook Pro 17inch. I have to say they seem a little pricey? $858 from B&H Photo.

Does anyone else have a problem running an Aptus 75 on a Macbook Pro? I can shoot tethered if I am plugged into an outlet, but have a problem running off the laptop battery and connecting the camera off the laptop battery?


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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2006, 10:39:54 PM »
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Thanks James for the info. I purchased a laptop stand from The Lap Top Stand. I am also looking at the www.digitalcamerabattery.com to run my MacBook Pro 17inch. I have to say they seem a little pricey? $858 from B&H Photo.

Does anyone else have a problem running an Aptus 75 on a Macbook Pro? I can shoot tethered if I am plugged into an outlet, but have a problem running off the laptop battery and connecting the camera off the laptop battery?
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The DCB does seem costly, but they will refurbish it when the time comes for $75 and have good support.  I have the 160 and they sold it to me for $600 and something because the 120 wasn't in stock.

It will run my 17" PB and the A-22 on a Contax tethered most of the day.

Everything in my digital kit, including computer, battery, tripod, drives all fit in one case

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I don't use a macbook pro, only a G4, but shooting to V-8 rather than LC10 makes for a very stable and fast tethering solution.  One frame every 1.2 seconds.

I can shoot all day without a gltich or a crash and V-8 runs much, much faster than any other tethering software with quick previews and requires much less power than LC10 or just about any other tethering solution, even the dslrs.

I am also told the firewire power out of the G4 powerbooks is more robust and runs the back easier than the MacBook Pros.

I strongly urge anyone that tethers to the Aptus to learn V-8.  At first the interface looks clunky and some of the functions are hard to find, but once learned it is a real joy to work.

V-8 is really a three part software and that is the beauty.  The images come in quickly to the contact sheet and the previews are roughly 5x7.  If you wish you can tap on the preview and get a full screen high rez version, or just let each preview come in automatically.

V-8 has a lot of hidden features such as rgb correction, a tone/color curve, brightness/contrast and even a black and white viewing function.  It will read a compressed .mos file and allow for decompression to a full .mos file as long as the iso is 200 or below.

Using V-8 for capture, I-view for sorting, quick editing and renaming and PSCS, or V-8 for processing makes for a very fast and stable workflow.

The A-22 files process on my powerbookG4 in pscs in 17 seconds a file.

When working in studio I use a 30" Apple lcd that the powerbook runs at full rez and refreshes quickly.

I've learned the workflow so well, that I now use the Aptus for about everything, even castings as I find it faster and easier than even a dslr.

since my tethering solution is now very portable I also tether on the majority of my work, even locations for a wide variety of work.

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I'm really impressed with the A-22 and love the look of the file.  It is so moveable, much more than any digital file I have shot.  My next purchse will be an A-65 as backup and to give me the options for higher iso.  Once the A-65 is in, I doubt if I will ever shoot with a dslr as the price of 15k is getting close to the dslr range and the large lcd, fast capture and the ability to stick with one camera and set of lenses is a plus, especially since shipping and moving equipment becomes mroe of an issue daily.

Edmund,

Thank you for your offer.  Yes when I have time I would love to try your profiles.

Best,

JR
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2006, 01:49:01 AM »
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Does anyone else have a problem running an Aptus 75 on a Macbook Pro? I can shoot tethered if I am plugged into an outlet, but have a problem running off the laptop battery and connecting the camera off the laptop battery?
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John there seems to be an issue with the MBP 17" which is exactly what you have described. Although the spec suggests that power running through the FW bus is similiar to that on the 17" G4, in reality the power management is different.
You can read more here: [a href=\"http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=488869&tstart=0]http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?t...488869&tstart=0[/url]

Apple will not say or do anything unless more and more people (obviously more musicians than photographers) will keep coming into the Apple stores to replace their machines.

As you can see this is affecting users of other devices not only digital backs. Currently the workaround (If I can call it that way) is to run the MBP off the mains or to use a powered FW repeater/booster - it can run off an external battery and produces a more solid current to the back.

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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2006, 06:12:24 AM »
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I am also looking at the www.digitalcamerabattery.com to run my MacBook Pro 17inch. I have to say they seem a little pricey? $858 from B&H Photo.


I don't believe Apple has released the specs of their magnetic MagSafe power connector to anyone, so it's not likely you'll be able to purchase any spare batteries other than Apple's own.
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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2006, 12:23:43 PM »
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http://www.batterygeek.net/Portable_Power_...batterygeek.htm

Worth googling for "portable battery" and querying these companies for MBP support....

One of these might do the trick as well:

http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/182/p/1/pt/29/product.asp
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2006, 01:34:45 PM »
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I don't believe Apple has released the specs of their magnetic MagSafe power connector to anyone, so it's not likely you'll be able to purchase any spare batteries other than Apple's own.
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Before Googling the battery, google the best price on a G4 17" powerbook and load Leaf V-8 into it.

You will shoot as fast or faster than any competing mediuum format camera even if they run into a Quad 5 Tower.

The secret, well I guess it's a secret because Leaf never really publicizes V-8 anymore is that V-8 is the fastest most stable tethering software made.

IMO this bleeding edge stuff is not only costly but frustrating.

Why beta test for Apple, or anyone when you can use proven equipment that not only turns amazing images but does so at a discount.

I guess I'm one step back, but using a Contax, PB G-4's, and god forbid PSCS (1), I can batch process high rez files out in 17 seconds, view everything tethered using V-8  on a 30" monitor where the previews come up almost isntantly rather than many seconds, or minutes.  

My combined price for all the equipment above is less than one basic H-2D kit and the cheapest MacBook pro.

It;s all about the photography anyway and a higher priced computer will not produce any better looking phtographs.   Since the new Intel Chips run Rosette for PhotoShop and most Aps, they even run slower, so at this point I don't see the reason to cut myself up on the bleeding edge.

JR
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2006, 02:28:08 PM »
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It is a little late now; I have the Macbook pro and H1 mount on my Leaf.  I don't own an H1 yet as I shoot on the Cambo wide ds. Come to think of it I don't think the Cambo even comes in Contax mount, either Hasselblad V/H1. As per the firewire connection I am going to take it over to the apple store and try another 17in and also the 15in. I think Phase One backs are also having the same problem. The nice thing about the Phase One you can run the camera off a battery and still shoot tethered.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2006, 10:55:31 AM »
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Hey James, thanks for the G4/Capture V8 tip. I had an issue with the a75 where the back freaked out on the G5 capture station. I had someone fire up Capture V8 on my Pbook G4 and shot tethered to that system while I sorted things out on the G5. Corrupted prefs, no big deal. but the best was that the client never knew anything was wrong. Still life set, rapid shoot not necessary, and I was amazed that the powerbook digested the a75 files as quickly as it did.

V8 is a bit clunky, especially when compared with C1, but when you get to know it, especially the advanced modes, it's a pretty functional app. I had no problems integrating it into my workflow for this job.

Cheers,

Eric
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2006, 10:54:28 AM »
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Just a quick note: the Cambo WDS does come in Contax mount for Contax fit backs and also Mamiya 645, H1 and V mounts. I have the Contax version.

Best

Matt
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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2006, 02:30:53 PM »
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Yair,

I´ve considered to get one of those fancy new MBP:s or MacBooks because LC10 is slow and constantly crashing  in my PB. I have solved that by staying as a LC 8.4 user.

LC 8.4 is stable and fast but I like many things in LC 10.

Now, the questions are:

-does the LC10.0.4 (optimazed for Intel) run stable and fast in MacBookPro or MacBook?
-as fast than in PB? Faster?
-can it handle large numbers of images (200-500) in one folder?
-is the 17" MBP the only one of the new books that doesn´t give enough power for FW?
-what models supply enough power? All the others?

thanks in advance!

Sami





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http://www.batterygeek.net/Portable_Power_...batterygeek.htm

Worth googling for "portable battery" and querying these companies for MBP support....

One of these might do the trick as well:

http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/182/p/1/pt/29/product.asp
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2006, 01:33:00 AM »
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Yair,

I´ve considered to get one of those fancy new MBP:s or MacBooks because LC10 is slow and constantly crashing  in my PB. I have solved that by staying as a LC 8.4 user.

LC 8.4 is stable and fast but I like many things in LC 10.

Now, the questions are:

-does the LC10.0.4 (optimazed for Intel) run stable and fast in MacBookPro or MacBook?
-as fast than in PB? Faster?
-can it handle large numbers of images (200-500) in one folder?
-is the 17" MBP the only one of the new books that doesn´t give enough power for FW?
-what models supply enough power? All the others?

thanks in advance!

Sami
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Hello Sami, from the reports so far, LC10 on the intel machines is faster in every aspect compared to on a PPC, meaning processing, adjustments, saving etc.
Yes it can handle more images in a folder but you'll still need lots of RAM for that.
Most bugs are similiar on both platforms
RAW files that were shot with LC10 on Intel won't open in ACR 3.4 (Adobe are fixing it for 3.5)
17" apparently has some power issue when running on own battery, no problem when pugged into mains power.
Other models are OK in that respect.

I hope this helps, also you shoulg join the Leaf User Forum (on our website, it's on the right) were you can get more in depth info.

cheers, yair
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2006, 02:35:22 AM »
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Yair,

Thank You for the information.
I will log to user forum now that is open again.
I was a regular visitor last winter but then it suddenly closed.

Nice that it´s open again!

Cheers,

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Hello Sami, from the reports so far, LC10 on the intel machines is faster in every aspect compared to on a PPC, meaning processing, adjustments, saving etc.
Yes it can handle more images in a folder but you'll still need lots of RAM for that.
Most bugs are similiar on both platforms
RAW files that were shot with LC10 on Intel won't open in ACR 3.4 (Adobe are fixing it for 3.5)
17" apparently has some power issue when running on own battery, no problem when pugged into mains power.
Other models are OK in that respect.

I hope this helps, also you shoulg join the Leaf User Forum (on our website, it's on the right) were you can get more in depth info.

cheers, yair
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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2006, 10:31:49 AM »
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I hope this helps, also you shoulg join the Leaf User Forum (on our website, it's on the right) were you can get more in depth info.

cheers, yair
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Hello Yair,
The new Leaf forum seems to be for Leaf back owners only, as you need to provide a Leaf serial# to sign up. I think that's unfortunate for people like me, who are on the verge of getting a DB and struggle to find information online.

Best,
Tom
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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2006, 03:47:16 PM »
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the 17"MBP has the issue with providing enough power for MF backs...the 15" does not...no clue why, but that is the way it is...i held on to my 17" G4 powerbook until i saw the screen of the MBP..no comparison, simply way better, the first screen i have ever had on a powerbook that i can do real color corrections on...it is also a lot brighter, which really helps on location...and PS on rosetta now(MBP2.16) runs faster then on the G4PB (1.67)...i have only tested this on normal stuff, funky filters might still be slower, curves, levels, color correction are faster on MBP...i also use a FW800 card with 2 ports in the express card slot...works perfectly...
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