Hi,
I am new to this forum and have been following some threads for a couple of weeks.
I am an architect, doing visualisations. I have used since 1998 an Epson Stylus Pro 5000, which died on me 3 weeks ago.
I was planning to replace the machine next year, since it died I will replace it a bit earlier.
As many of you I am looking at about 4 to 7 possible replacements:
A3+ sizes
1. Epson 3800
2. HP 9180
A2 sizes
3. Epson 4800
4. Canon IPF5000
A1 sizes
5. Epson 7800
6. HP Z2100 24 inch
7. HP Z3100 24 inch
For my budget I think A2 sizes are what I can afford, only A1 maybe I could afford is the HP Z2100.
Concerning the Epson 4800/7800 the Black ink problem is a major issue to me as I often swith from matte paper to glossy. I need both in one printer. Adding the Imageprint RIP is to cost expensive compared to going for othe rmachines.
However I was always very pleased about the output quality of Epson machines despite paperhandling problems, poor drivers, controller errors, print head problems. The final prints I needed where always very good, I also did larger prints on Epson 9800 outside of my office mostly on matte papers.
To me for my budget only 3 options seem available:
1. Canon IPF 5000
I am very seduced by the Canon IPF5000, but ....
Are the images really up to par in sharpness, color, saturation, etc... to the Epson 4800 ?
Are the standard papers from Canon also good

2. Epson 3800
If the canon is not up to par with Epson 4800 then I tend to lean to the new Epson 3800, however I would loose A2 and the roll option ? I would be left mainly with what I had with my Epson 5000, only faster and better quality.
Will the Epson 3800 be better in quality then the 4800 or is this just marketing hype by Epson

3. HP Z2100
The other option would be the HP Z2100 24 inch standard version.
Advantage would be larger size, however I am very weary of print quality, why ?
I have test prints from HP 130 and 90 and they are not up to par even with my Epson 5000 in some areas, oversaturated blues etc...
What would you do

Still I like the Canon ?
What would you buy:
Epson 3800, Canon IPF5000 or HP Z2100
Christophe from Belgium
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