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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2006, 02:03:35 AM »
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But I'd still like to see you clone out the house and replace it with a mirror image of the fence.   

I think that might be just a tad bit obvious...
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2006, 02:42:07 AM »
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Since the upper branches were quite a bit darker than the rest, I did some more tweaking and lightened then up a bit to kind of match the rest of the tree, but left the rest of the image alone. Here's version #4:
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Hi Jonathan,

I like the upper branches in version # 4 the best but I like the trunk of the tree from #2 the best.  The lighter trunk from #2 matches the house better and brings unity to the image.

It's all a matter of balance.  You see why it can take days or weeks or longer to optimize an image :-)

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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2006, 12:53:32 AM »
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Yes. The hard part is telling when to quit beating the horse and start applying the lipstick to the next pig...

I appreciate the feedback and have found it useful. Thank you.
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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2006, 09:56:03 AM »
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Yes. The hard part is telling when to quit beating the horse and start applying the lipstick to the next pig...
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I consider my RAW images to be just raw material upon which to work. Sometimes the concept is there but things just don't quite gel, the effect is not quite right and one knows it even though others may praise the work. In my case, it's possibly just a matter of not having enough skill in Photoshop to get the effect I want.

Someone made the point recently on the forum that light and shade is more important than the subject. Whatever one's views on this, there's no doubt that the interplay of light and shade, contrast and detail, is crucial to the success of many images.

Alain's recent essay, 'The Eye and the Camera' has some good examples of straight RAW conversions transformed from rather dull and flat images into vibrant images. It is the skill to do this that I personally feel I need to develop, hence my interest in and use of (the no longer available) RawShooter which seemed to be able to add zap, vibrancy and detail to an image in a way that seemed more difficult to achieve with ACR and PS.

I would hesitate to comment on your image viewed on an internet cafe monitor, but it sure looks an impressive tree, enhanced by the use of a wide-angle lens, with an almost semi-abstract quality of shape and form.
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2006, 10:06:29 AM »
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Very nice Jonathan.  All live oaks are photographs waiting to happen.  ;-)

Glad to know you're safely home, if only for a while.  Just on leave, or home for good?

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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2006, 01:31:24 PM »
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I'm back in Germany for the next year or so.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2006, 01:43:27 AM »
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I like the 1st darkest version. For some reason when the fore branches are lightened my eye is easily distracted. In the dark pic, I find myself just floating all around the image taking it in.

That is one gnarly tree! Nice work!
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2006, 11:26:14 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2006, 01:18:25 PM »
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Nice job.  I like the abstract and the toning.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2006, 12:00:28 PM »
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I definitely like the toning. How did you do it?

I'm a bit conflicted about the crop. It gets rid of the house, but the house gives a bit of perspective to the size of the tree. It also breaks up the backward D-shaped loop of large branches that goes from upper right to lower left and back, which I like.
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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2006, 12:23:46 PM »
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I had no trouble seeing the tree is huge, even without the house.  The house does add some size perspective, but the wide angle lens makes the tree look very large compared to the house anyway.  In the cropped version, it is still easy for me to tell the tree is large.  Maybe it is just knowing that gnarly oaks are also big oaks.
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« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2006, 03:01:13 AM »
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I definitely like the toning. How did you do it?


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PS > mode > rgb > color bal > yellow lots , red lots > hue/sat > dial down sat

There is lots of selective curves tinkering too..

Did you see your townsacape ?

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2006, 11:39:22 AM »
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Yes, I did; you darkened the entire image a bit, which I'm not sure I like, but aside from taht I liked the toning job there as well.
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