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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2007, 04:02:47 PM »
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All I hear is how great the P30 skin tones are compared to the P25/P45.  I'd love to see some side by sides done with both backs if anyone has it.

Mark, would you say that with your custom profile the p45 skin tones equal the p30 or is the p30 just better no matter what?

I just don't think I can put up with the crop factor!!  P35 "full frame" where are you?!?!

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I shoot the P45 on the Contax. I do Lifestyle and Portrait. While I love the lack of crop factor of the P45 compared to the P30, I am finding the P45 slightly too slow for Lifestyle work. I am attempting to switch to the P30 when the Plus version arrives. (I bought the Plus, but have the Non-Plus as a loaner). Also, shooting tethered, the recycle rate slows down even further, compared to shooting to Extreme IV cards. That might not affect you but it does me, with advertising work, when tethered is required. Also, I find the Input Profiles for the P30 to be far superior to the P45 profiles; the P30 skin tone is amazing, right out of the box. The P45 can tend toward red, and for me, required a custom profile to pull red.

As far as Hasselblad or Contax, no difference. Both great cameras. Although, I'd not want that cable to fool with, or become unplugged. The Contax is a joy to use. (I hated the H too, and sold my whole system.) The Contax is effortless; they can be found most anywhere with some searching, even brand new.

Good luck in your search. Try to TEST both back before committing, in YOUR STYLE of shooting, in real world conditions. Do not take anyone's advice, (especially mine).

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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2007, 04:10:02 PM »
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All I hear is how great the P30 skin tones are compared to the P25/P45.  I'd love to see some side by sides done with both backs if anyone has it.

Mark, would you say that with your custom profile the p45 skin tones equal the p30 or is the p30 just better no matter what?

I just don't think I can put up with the crop factor!!  P35 "full frame" where are you?!?!

Jeff

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Jeff,
I thought the crop factor on the Contax and P30 was really going to bother me, but I can say for certain that I haven't noticed it one time! Before I shot an old Hassy 201F and Canon 1Ds daily. The screen on the Contax with P30 to me is plenty big enough, although it could always be larger!

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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2007, 05:48:42 PM »
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Hmm, I haven't actually received my Contax yet... but, my biggest reservation in switching to the Contax was the fact that their prism was so much smaller than other cameras.  I just did a quick check comparing it to an H2 and the H2 is much bigger.  I know my V prism has a 2.5x magnification while the Contax is a measly 0.8x... so a crop factor with a Contax has me even more worried.

But, like I said... I haven't received my Contax yet so I guess I'll have to wait and see.

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I thought the crop factor on the Contax and P30 was really going to bother me, but I can say for certain that I haven't noticed it one time! Before I shot an old Hassy 201F and Canon 1Ds daily. The screen on the Contax with P30 to me is plenty big enough, although it could always be larger!

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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2007, 07:26:44 PM »
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Hmm, I haven't actually received my Contax yet... but, my biggest reservation in switching to the Contax was the fact that their prism was so much smaller than other cameras.  I just did a quick check comparing it to an H2 and the H2 is much bigger.  I know my V prism has a 2.5x magnification while the Contax is a measly 0.8x... so a crop factor with a Contax has me even more worried.

But, like I said... I haven't received my Contax yet so I guess I'll have to wait and see.

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That's what I'm saying I did the same thing before I got my Contax, but after all is said and done, it hasn't bothered me one bit. I really thought it would after doing the specs comparison. The other thing I'm doing is have Bill Maxwell build me a better brighter screen for the contax, it only cost around $200.00.

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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2007, 07:38:35 PM »
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I'm also using the P30 w. the Contax, and I was also surprised at how little I've noticed the crop factor, either thru the viewfinder or with my widest wide angle (the 35mm).  And this is coming from someone who's a die-hard "full framer" when it comes to 35mm DSLRs.

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That's what I'm saying I did the same thing before I got my Contax, but after all is said and done, it hasn't bothered me one bit. I really thought it would after doing the specs comparison. The other thing I'm doing is have Bill Maxwell build me a better brighter screen for the contax, it only cost around $200.00.

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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2007, 08:52:14 PM »
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I'm also using the P30 w. the Contax, and I was also surprised at how little I've noticed the crop factor, either thru the viewfinder or with my widest wide angle (the 35mm).  And this is coming from someone who's a die-hard "full framer" when it comes to 35mm DSLRs.
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I have a P30 that is mounted to a Mamiya.  Phase supplied a set of inserts to mark off the crop factor.  I did not care for it.  I emailed Yair at Leaf and he told me about a Leaf branded Mamiya screen for the camera that  showed the same crop factor as the Phase P30.  (The Aptus 65 is the same chip size.)

I purchased it from Steve Hendrix in Atlanta.  Leaf may make screens for the Contax also.  Suggest you try that route.  If you are shooting with a H1/H2 camera - Anton Young of Empire Capture in NYC (http://www.empirecapture.com) makes a insert that blocks off the unused area.
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2007, 01:40:08 PM »
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From what I was told by the Phase One dealer, all that is needed is a single cable from the lens to the back. Don't see why I would be misled? I would like to hear from other V users as well.

Tomorrow I am goiing to order the back and need to pick a mount.
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Thats correct! just one data cable that goes from the lens to the back. Ive been using HassyV/P20 for over couple of years. Except for some times, where the wire gets a little fiddly, it is not an issue. I also have a 5D. but two different animals altogether. In terms of quality, there's no match. But for casual handheld on the go situations, MF is a little tricky...

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2007, 07:25:06 PM »
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One of the V issues was lack of eltric connections. I believe the 555 body worked quite well with the Kodak back (some years back) so I assume that the need for cables is simply a lack of communication shutter to back.

It is one of the reasons that I switched to Contax for my Hasselblad lenses.

That said, the V later bodies should only need the shutter trip cable to communicate with the Phase back. The phase back DOES need a wake up though, so I wonder if there is a second fire needed.

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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2007, 12:42:24 AM »
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I have a P30 that is mounted to a Mamiya.  Phase supplied a set of inserts to mark off the crop factor.  I did not care for it.  I emailed Yair at Leaf and he told me about a Leaf branded Mamiya screen for the camera that  showed the same crop factor as the Phase P30.  (The Aptus 65 is the same chip size.)

I purchased it from Steve Hendrix in Atlanta.  Leaf may make screens for the Contax also.  Suggest you try that route.  If you are shooting with a H1/H2 camera - Anton Young of Empire Capture in NYC (http://www.empirecapture.com) makes a insert that blocks off the unused area.
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i have a set of antons view finder masks for my h1, they are great, its not just one mask, but a colection of masks from normal crop to square, several differnt wide crops. ther seems to be a mask that suits what ever format im shooting. no more drawing lines on my focusing screen

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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2007, 06:48:50 PM »
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Victor,

The Hasselblad 500 series body actually has a pin in the rear that wakes the back up when you
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2007, 10:50:42 PM »
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Victor,

The Hasselblad 500 series body actually has a pin in the rear that wakes the back up when you
fire the camera.

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Just make sure the pin is clean (alcohol + wipe) or the back will not wake up.
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