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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2007, 09:06:05 AM »
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Michael et al,

It was an amazing trip... I would go again in a heartbeat.  Why anyone would discount the place without seeing it is equally dumbfounding.  Never in my life have I seen so many forces of nature in action at once.

http://terra360.com/antarctica/

is my take from '07.

Great job.

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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2007, 09:30:41 AM »
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Rusty,

Thanks for posting the link! The pictures are wonderful!


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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2007, 09:38:38 AM »
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Indeed!!!

I freely admit to being jealous of such a trip
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2007, 04:01:15 PM »
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Rusty:  Beautiful images... thanks for sharing!

BTW, a group of penguins is a colony, creche, huddle, parade, parcel or rookery, but not a gaggle!

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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2007, 10:21:52 PM »
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Rusty. Love your shots. Great storytelling. A quick question - how easy is it to get around in Buenos Aires and the other spots you visited in S. America if you only speak english? I'm visiting Patagonia next Feb and am trying to decide how much effort to put into learning Spanish.

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« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2007, 08:10:35 AM »
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Rusty. Love your shots. Great storytelling. A quick question - how easy is it to get around in Buenos Aires and the other spots you visited in S. America if you only speak english? I'm visiting Patagonia next Feb and am trying to decide how much effort to put into learning Spanish.

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Thank you Hans.  I speak English and fair French, the latter of which did me no good at all, save for a smile from the Aerolineas Argentinas stewardess in the airport lounge.  Otherwise I think I did just fine in Buenos Aires without speaking Spanish.  Had I not signed up for this trip on such short notice I think it would be wise to at a minimum learn the basics (where is... ?, what is...?, how do I... ?.. etc).  I didn't even know that and was fine.  Outside in the country it was another story.
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2007, 10:13:30 AM »
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Rusty. Love your shots. Great storytelling. A quick question - how easy is it to get around in Buenos Aires and the other spots you visited in S. America if you only speak english? I'm visiting Patagonia next Feb and am trying to decide how much effort to put into learning Spanish.

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Hey Hans,

I have been to southern Chile (Torres del Paine) as well as to Buenos Aires and Ushuaia.  In most places, there are enough people that deal with travelers that they speak passable English.  Certainly it's helpful to know a few phrases (where's the bathroom, etc.) but if you have a good attitude and some patience you'll probably be able to get by.

Just avoid the "ugly American" syndrome of thinking that if you speak LOUDER they'll actually understand English
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2007, 05:58:08 PM »
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I actually started a Berlitz Spanish class in anticipation of my upcoming trip, but I ended up dropping it after a few weeks. I just don't think I'm capable of learning a language the Berlitz way (total immersion, nothing is spoken in the class but Spanish - sink or swim, in other words). Lets face it - I'm an old dog, and learning Spanish is a new trick :-) I still have all the workbooks and CDs, however, so I will probably continue to work thru those. I'll be visiting Buenos Aires, Torres del Paine, Los Glaciers, and Santiago - all places frequented by tourists. So I'm hoping my rudimentary Spanish will get me by.

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« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2007, 06:20:12 PM »
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... So I'm hoping my rudimentary Spanish will get me by.

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You could take a phrasebook with you... pocket sized book covering almost any situation. I used one for a trip through Paraguay & Bolivia, had no problems despite my limited spanish.

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« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2007, 01:43:54 AM »
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QUOTE(ddolde @ Mar 16 2007, 07:43 AM)
I wonder how much of a discount CatOne is getting on his next workshop for talking the trip up so much.  Personally you could not pay me to go down there.

Good, don't go.  Who needs you, anyway?  Although, I suppose if you went we could throw you overboard and have a good man overboard drill.  And given your attitude, who would care if the exercise was a success.  You, sir, should really keep your mouth shut.  As the proverb says, "Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it."  You obviously have a wonderful opinion of Michael as well (discounts?).  Go troll somewhere else.

I went on both trips, and would go on a third in a "heartbeat" (just a little inside humor I won't share with you).  I would simply state that Antarctica is one of the most spectacular places I have had the opportunity to visit.  As one person noted, "It's one of the few places on earth we haven't managed to  F-up....yet."

So please sir.  Don't go.  I wouldn't want this glorious place tainted by your presence.
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« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2007, 09:46:01 PM »
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I have recently went on the trip with Michael. My images are not up yet. But if you cannot see the odvious sellable images that are there for you to shoot, then there is not much hope for you.  I make all living selling my prints in exhibitions in galleries throughout the world, let me tell you I barely got them up and they are selling like crazy. If you cannot see the potential of what there is in Antarctica to shoot then you need to spend a little more time opening your vision.  I will post these soon on galleryoftheamericanlandscape.com.  thanks Michael you know I'm in for 2009.  Thanks for a great trip, this time we'll have more diet soda aboard.  Tim Wolcott
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« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2007, 09:52:48 AM »
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Will someone please post the link to the sweepstakes I enter to win the all expense paid cabin suite on the next Antarctic expedition.

  Thanks!
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« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2007, 10:37:43 AM »
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Good, don't go.  Who needs you, anyway?  Although, I suppose if you went we could throw you overboard and have a good man overboard drill.  And given your attitude, who would care if the exercise was a success.  You, sir, should really keep your mouth shut.  As the proverb says, "Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it."  You obviously have a wonderful opinion of Michael as well (discounts?).  Go troll somewhere else.

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ROFL, Scott.  Unfortunately, I must remind you that as ship doctor, the Hippocratic oath prevents you from "volunteering" someone to run the "man overboard" drill in this manner  

I know we all did have a great time, even if it was somewhere Michael had seen before.

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« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2007, 11:12:38 PM »
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Thank you Michael for your part in shrinking and educating our world.

And thank you Bill, Stephen and Rusty for your wonderful galleries. I've run out of superlatives and that includes loud vocalisations like "Oooohhh!" and "Aaaawwwww" that will get my neighbors wondering ...

I think these images should be compulsory viewing SOON, for every school-child in every nation ... (OK, excuse me while I adjust my reality gauge...).

But I'll repeat the cliche that Antarctica should be declared the Eighth Wonder of our fragile World, and these photos and anecdotes are opening our minds.

If we saw those Pleaneau Bay iceberg-columns(Stephen) or that dimpled ice(Rusty) on any geological feature in a NASA/ESA image from any other planet or moon, we'd be wondering if we'd found a message from ET at last  

My mind has been hugely broadened, thanks  

Colin

P.S. I get seasick on my scandanavian rocking chair but if I could afford it I'd happily suffer the short term travel discomforts for some long term memories from such a trip.
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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2007, 07:43:12 AM »
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Rusty - thanks for the candid shots. It looks like a fabulous party!

The galleries are all wonderful. I appreciate your links.
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« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2007, 12:11:31 PM »
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Rusty - thanks for the candid shots. It looks like a fabulous party!

The galleries are all wonderful. I appreciate your links.
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Thanks Katemann

I added a few dozen more images in the past week or so, plus two or three more links.

We're leaving for the 3rd trip next week.  I'll be posting messages here from the ship LIVE.

Cheers
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« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2007, 01:20:26 PM »
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ROFL, Scott. Unfortunately, I must remind you that as ship doctor, the Hippocratic oath prevents you from "volunteering" someone to run the "man overboard" drill in this manner  
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Well, Scott wouldn't actually have to do it...Seth and would be HAPPY to throw him overboard!. Then Scott can come in and save the poor fellow (or not).

:~)

Seriously, anybody who is stupid enough to not realize how special and rare a trip to photograph in Antarctica is (even if it's for second time), is either not telling the truth and therefore being a troll, or is a twisted Republican Bush lover from Texas who simply wants to pretend that Global Warming _IS'T_ wiping out some of the most beautiful and fragile landscape locations on Earth.

To be honest, going to the same place over an over-particularly when it's soooo photographable, is how you develop a complete body of work. While taking _ONE_ trip to Antarctica is a very special treat, going twice gave us all the chance to revisit places-obviously in a different context-and reshoot things we already had the chance to shoot but under different conditions. Not to mention going to completely new places...

How many time has Ansel Adams shot in Yosemite? You think he didn't see things in a "new light" every time he went?

I doubt that I'll every get to the point where I view Antarctica as commonplace, I should be so lucky....but I would love to keep going back (maybe not EVERY year) for the rest of my life. It really is that special. And anybody who doesn't agree is just a big p**py head!!!

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« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2007, 05:23:51 PM »
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Jeff I'm afraid that poopy head is simply much too strong language for this family oriented site, no matter how valid a statement.

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« Reply #58 on: April 01, 2007, 05:44:01 PM »
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Jeff – I'm afraid that poopy head is simply much too strong language for this family oriented site, no matter how valid a statement.

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Absolutely! Next time spell it "p**py head," Jeff.  
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« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2007, 02:20:32 AM »
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Seriously, anybody who is stupid enough to not realize how special and rare a trip to photograph in Antarctica is (even if it's for second time), is either not telling the truth and therefore being a troll, or is a twisted Republican Bush lover from Texas who simply wants to pretend that Global Warming _IS'T_ wiping out some of the most beautiful and fragile landscape locations on Earth.

Although I totally empathise with the sentiment, tourism in Antarctica is becoming a very serious issue. Apart from the obvious question about carbon tax offsets (I'm assuming this was covered), the fact is that sooner or later there is going to be a major, irrecoverable ecological disaster resulting from a shipping incident in the Antarctic Peninsula.

The ethics and politics of visiting Antarctica solely for personal pleasure are complex issues. I would say that it is better just to say you went because you wanted to, and could afford to, rather than heading out on the thin ice of justification on wider grounds.
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