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« on: March 20, 2007, 04:27:41 AM »
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http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Hi
The translation is a little broken, just saw this on the  Mamiya web site (new owners ).
There are no specs.
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 04:53:11 AM »
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Hi
I looked at the ZD back @ mamiya.com & compared it to the new jpep image and there is a slight change on the RH side, the scroll function buttons are a little different.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 06:18:51 AM »
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http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Hi
The translation is a little broken, just saw this on the† Mamiya web site (new owners ).
There are no specs.
Thanks Denis
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The Norwegian mamiya importer has the new ZD back on their website, states delivery in april 2007 at a price of 59 000,- NOK for the back, and 19 000,- NOK for the 645AFD II body.

There is also a package with the RZ 67 Pro-IID, at 64 300,- NOK for the back with adapter plate, and 16 800,- NOK for the RZ body.

weblink: [a href=\"http://www.mamiya.no/]http://www.mamiya.no/[/url]

weblink RZ syst. prices: http://www.mamiya.no/mamiya/ZD-prisliste.asp

exel pricelist link 654 syst: http://www.mamiya.no/mamiya/ZD%20Back%20m%20645AFDII.xls

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 08:55:40 AM »
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So if my calculations are correct that's around £5000 GBP.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2007, 09:25:22 AM »
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So if my calculations are correct that's around £5000 GBP.
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yep, or 4901,15 to be precise.

I have looked again, and it does not state on the website wether this is incl. or excl. of sales tax/mva. but i expect it to be without...

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 05:41:39 PM »
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For grins I emailed MAC Group here in the US, here are the responses:


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Dear John,      

The current version of the Mamiya ZD is sold only in the overseas markets and is not imported to the US by Mamiya America.  There will be a second version of their camera for American photographers available in the near future.  An exact release date is not available at the present time.  A current ZD purchased overseas cannot be serviced by Mamiya America; warranty and service will be provided by the distributor in the country where the camera was purchased.  We don't have a price set yet.

Thanks,
Garry Montalbano
The MAC Group
8 Westchester Plaza
Elmsford N.Y. 10523
Tel: 914.347-3300


Then I sent a second email restating that I was interested in the back, not the ZD dSLR (email #2) -


Dear John,

The same applies for the ZD back. Iím sorry we donít have an approximate date or price yet.

Garry Montalbano
The MAC Group
8 Westchester Plaza
Elmsford N.Y. 10523
Tel: 914.347-3300
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2007, 05:47:22 PM »
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Sorry mac, thats money going elsewhere      

(bad pun intended...)

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For grins I emailed MAC Group here in the US, here are the responses:
Email #1-
Dear John,       

The current version of the Mamiya ZD is sold only in the overseas markets and is not imported to the US by Mamiya America.  There will be a second version of their camera for American photographers available in the near future.  An exact release date is not available at the present time.  A current ZD purchased overseas cannot be serviced by Mamiya America; warranty and service will be provided by the distributor in the country where the camera was purchased.  We don't have a price set yet.

Thanks,
Garry Montalbano
The MAC Group
8 Westchester Plaza
Elmsford N.Y. 10523
Tel: 914.347-3300
Then I sent a second email restating that I was interested in the back, not the ZD dSLR (email #2) -
Dear John,

The same applies for the ZD back. Iím sorry we donít have an approximate date or price yet.

Garry Montalbano
The MAC Group
8 Westchester Plaza
Elmsford N.Y. 10523
Tel: 914.347-3300
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 09:12:22 AM »
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The current version of the Mamiya ZD is sold only in the overseas markets and is not imported to the US by Mamiya America.† There will be a second version of their camera for American photographers available in the near future.†

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The same applies for the ZD back. Iím sorry we donít have an approximate date or price yet.

Garry Montalbano
The MAC Group
8 Westchester Plaza
Elmsford N.Y. 10523
Tel: 914.347-3300
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Intriguing to ponder on the use of language here:  "second version" not "Improved" version.  It *might* be improved, but if not, in what way changed, one wonders?   And will a "second version" be sold in parallel with the european version, or replace it?  the back has only just been released in the EU, so presumably this adds to the feeling its a tad early for a US version to be improved.

I think we should be told  

Quentin

PS give the US ZD a decent firewire port would be my advice
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2007, 09:43:47 AM »
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Quentin,

Did you have, by any chance, a warning sheet with your ZD as to how to operate it with Firewire. In particular, the once about the recommended sequence for connecting the cable, turning camera on/off, running remote capture software? It seems to me that I had it, but cannot locate it anymore... I would greatly appreciate it if you could share.

Thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2007, 10:32:34 AM »
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Garry (the representative at MAC) used the same wording about 30-45 days ago.  He probably has a Word document or notes application with all these responses pre-typed...  If they sold the unit in the US, more sales would lead to more profit which could lead to a 2nd revision with a better buffer, more secure firewire port, etc...  

I'm not sure what role MAC Group plays in distributing Leaf products in the US (Leaf is shown as one of the products MAC Group distributes), so it seems to me they have a conflict of interest with the Aptus 22 and the Mamiya ZD / ZD Back.  I wonder if this has any part in why the ZD product(s) haven't appeared in the U.S.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 05:38:13 PM »
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<<<<<<<<Did you have, by any chance, a warning sheet with your ZD as to how to operate it with Firewire>>>>>


hi michael,

I know, you didnt ask me, but I still answer: I never saw such info. But it would be very interesting to know if there is a certain procedure to follow. Just yesterday in the middle of a production it happend again: after an our of tethered shooting the files to be transfered go stuck in the middle of the cable somewhere, the camera tried to send them to the mac, where  they didnīt arrive. which means the buffer doesnīt clear. You cant even switch of the camera because it is warning you, that there are still unsaved files somewhere around. You have to take the battery out to solve the hick up.
  This firewire-thing opens a whole new hobby to me - collecting firewirecables. Every time when I am shopping with wife/kids I take a stroll through the electronic department inspecting and sometimes bying firewire cables - on my quest to find the ultimate-ZD-cable. (some do actualy fit better than others).

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2007, 06:56:10 PM »
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Michael,

No idea - no warning I was aware of - maybe its in the manual.  I recall my Kodak 14n came with warnings, but that is still working after 4 years including a lot of tethered use, as is my still older DCS 760, but then that used the big firewire port and is one heck of a well made robust camera.

Amazing a pro product like the ZD - otherwise such a good camera - could be compromised by what was probably a few bucks cost saving measure.

Quentin
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2007, 04:53:08 AM »
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Michael,

No idea - no warning I was aware of - maybe its in the manual.  I recall my Kodak 14n came with warnings, but that is still working after 4 years including a lot of tethered use, as is my still older DCS 760, but then that used the big firewire port and is one heck of a well made robust camera.

Amazing a pro product like the ZD - otherwise such a good camera - could be compromised by what was probably a few bucks cost saving measure.

Quentin
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It's the same with a lot of products. Engineers are trained not to save on connectors, but the managers are trained to shave costs, and connectors are one of the easiest place to shave cost because it's obvious that "a plug is just a plug".

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2007, 08:17:30 AM »
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Thanks for your replies, everyone. I have also requested that information from the dealer that I purchased my ZD from . If I get any valuable info I will post it on this forum.
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2007, 10:41:33 AM »
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Mamiya is also launching the two new lenses

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools

I was checking prices for the 28mm but I must have done something wrong with the conversion. Can 672,000Y be 5706$?? That would make it even more expensive than Hasselblad one; It doesn't look reasonable. I'll have to check prices in Europe.

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2007, 01:14:19 PM »
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Mamiya is also launching the two new lenses

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools

I was checking prices for the 28mm but I must have done something wrong with the conversion. Can 672,000Y be 5706$?? That would make it even more expensive than Hasselblad one; It doesn't look reasonable. I'll have to check prices in Europe.

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Arnau,

Without tax I come up with $5414 US

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2007, 01:59:42 PM »
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Arnau,

Without tax I come up with $5414 US

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Thanks for confirmation. Too much for me to justify buying it, I'll continue with my old 35mm .

Arnau.
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2007, 06:20:47 AM »
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Price for the ZD-Back in Germany: Euro 7'800 (without tax)
this is approximately $ 10'400

http://www.photoscala.de/node/3068
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