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« on: March 26, 2007, 02:09:46 PM »
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Hi evryone
I have just recently finished reviewing the Rotation 360 and thought that it might be of interest to all here. The link is http://www.shadowsandlight.ca/?page_id=30
There is a portion written from the point of view from a woman. I hope you find it of interest. I certainly found this bag superb.

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2007, 04:55:29 PM »
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I have just recently finished reviewing the Rotation 360 and thought that it might be of interest to all here.

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I dont get this product at all

I think the question needs asking what is the purpose - who is it for

If you are an on the road PJ then you break your stuff into 'needed' and 'needed later'

(cameras needed now - laptop needed later??)

Seems like the top too small for a laptop and the bottom..??

I suppose if like many you can only afford one DSLR you want to put a second lens somewhere (a wide zoom and a tele zoom)

then the bottom is too big you are better off with an 80-200 case on your hip and a regular rucksack

If you have two cameras you have one on each shoulder a lense on each and dont need the access

Maybe it is for the hiker - who gets to the top of a mountain then wants to get thier (broken down) kit out and take a snap then stow thier gear away again

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2007, 05:31:42 PM »
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I dont get this product at all
I think the question needs asking what is the purpose - who is it for
If you are an on the road PJ then you break your stuff into 'needed' and 'needed later'
(cameras needed now - laptop needed later??)
Seems like the top too small for a laptop and the bottom..??

Worked for my purposes, with the reservations that I outlined in the review. I did not mention PJ shooting. Laptop? Just fine for the Epson P5000 or the like. Who is taking laptops into the wilds? Not me, that's for sure.

It is certainly suited more to certain kinds of photography than others. Where it might not be useful for what you do, it might be indispensable for someone doing a different kind of photography.

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2007, 05:57:01 PM »
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I haven't read your review yet, but I was at the camera store today and saw the bag, so I decided to check it out. Two things surprised me about the bag.  !) how small the bag is  2) how heavy it is.

When i saw it looked kind of cool, especially for landscape work, when you need to change lenses.  But it seemed considerably heavier then my nature trekker and i don't know if a 1d2 with a RRS L bracket would fit in there with a lens attached.  I didnt have my equipment to see how much would fit, but considering that it is smaller then the nature trekker, I'm not sure if most of the gear i'd want to carry would fit.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2007, 06:07:35 PM »
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as I said for the hiker maybe

PJ ing ? well every image on thinktanks website is of a PJ in action - and thier slogan is 'being ready before the moment'  so one might draw some conclusions about the intended market..

might be perfect for LLers

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2007, 08:39:30 PM »
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I haven't read your review yet, but I was at the camera store today and saw the bag, so I decided to check it out. Two things surprised me about the bag.  !) how small the bag is  2) how heavy it is.

When i saw it looked kind of cool, especially for landscape work, when you need to change lenses.  But it seemed considerably heavier then my nature trekker and i don't know if a 1d2 with a RRS L bracket would fit in there with a lens attached.  I didnt have my equipment to see how much would fit, but considering that it is smaller then the nature trekker, I'm not sure if most of the gear i'd want to carry would fit.
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My first impression when I first took it out of the box was that it did seem heavy. But I loaded it up, went hiking with it, and like I said in my review, was totally unaware of the weight. Possibly because of the way the weight is distributed. My wife, who is small build and not strong, took the same gear for a 3 mile hike to test the fit from a woman's perspective. I went with her as I was afraid that she might not be able to handle the weight. She had no problems at all. It was a bit embarrassing going on a hike with a small woman at my side loaded down like a packhorse while I was just walking free at her side!

I don't know if your 1D2 with bracket and all would fit in there. Best thing would be to take your gear to the store and try it. If you read my review you will see my comments as to size and what I put in the bag.

Or call Doug Murdock at Think Tank. The guys there are very helpful. He will know.

Keep us posted.

Cheers!

Steve
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 05:38:48 PM »
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My first impression when I first took it out of the box was that it did seem heavy. But I loaded it up, went hiking with it, and like I said in my review, was totally unaware of the weight. Possibly because of the way the weight is distributed. My wife, who is small build and not strong, took the same gear for a 3 mile hike to test the fit from a woman's perspective. I went with her as I was afraid that she might not be able to handle the weight. She had no problems at all. It was a bit embarrassing going on a hike with a small woman at my side loaded down like a packhorse while I was just walking free at her side!

I don't know if your 1D2 with bracket and all would fit in there. Best thing would be to take your gear to the store and try it. If you read my review you will see my comments as to size and what I put in the bag.

Or call Doug Murdock at Think Tank. The guys there are very helpful. He will know.

Keep us posted.

Cheers!

Steve
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Steve,
I am going on a trip in June and am concerned about taking my Nature Trekker as I had a few issues last time I travlled with it at the Toronto airport.

I am considering the Rotation 360, coz, it is a little smaller, and it may be better suited for my trip to the bay area (not having to take of the backpack everytime i need something).

What i wanted to know is the bag ok for a carry-on and is it still big enough to hold the following:
-5D with grip and L-plate
-1dIII with L-plate
-16-35L II
-24-105L
-70-200 2.8L IS
-2 580 flashes (or at worst at least one flash)

I am unable to check at the local store as they don't have one in currently and I only have one body (as i've sold my 1diiN in anticipation of the 1DIII).
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2007, 01:09:54 PM »
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Steve,

What i wanted to know is the bag ok for a carry-on and is it still big enough to hold the following:
-5D with grip and L-plate
-1dIII with L-plate
-16-35L II
-24-105L
-70-200 2.8L IS
-2 580 flashes (or at worst at least one flash)

Hi Khurram

Sorry that it's taken me a couple of days to get back to you.I had forwarded your question to Doug Murdoch the president and designer of Think Tank, only to find out last night that he is away and is unable to respond at the moment.Your question has been forwarded to customer service that will be able to give an answer to your question, but of course it's the weekend now , so I guess we wont hear until next week.

From what I can see you won't be able to fit everything in the 360 that you listed without adding one or two modulus components, to take your speedilght for example.These add on pieces make the system very versatile and I think you will still be able to carry the backpack on the plane with no problem.But as I dont have the same equipment as you I am unable to configure my bag  to be sure. However as soon as I get a response from ThinkTank I will forward it you.

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Steve
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2007, 02:06:43 PM »
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Hi Khurram

Sorry that it's taken me a couple of days to get back to you.I had forwarded your question to Doug Murdoch the president and designer of Think Tank, only to find out last night that he is away and is unable to respond at the moment.Your question has been forwarded to customer service that will be able to give an answer to your question, but of course it's the weekend now , so I guess we wont hear until next week.

From what I can see you won't be able to fit everything in the 360 that you listed without adding one or two modulus components, to take your speedilght for example.These add on pieces make the system very versatile and I think you will still be able to carry the backpack on the plane with no problem.But as I dont have the same equipment as you I am unable to configure my bag  to be sure. However as soon as I get a response from ThinkTank I will forward it you.

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Steve
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2007, 12:54:29 PM »
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Steve,
I am going on a trip in June ...What i wanted to know is the bag ok for a carry-on and is it still big enough to hold the following:
-5D with grip and L-plate
-1dIII with L-plate
-16-35L II
-24-105L
-70-200 2.8L IS
-2 580 flashes (or at worst at least one flash)
Hi Khurram,

I have a reply now about fitting your gear into the Rotation 360. As I suspected, you will need a component from the modulus system to get everything in.

I quote from Doug Murdock of Think Tank: "Of course, for travel on the plane we recommend the Airport Acceleration, ( http://www.thinktankphoto.com/ttp_product_ArprtAccel.php )
which will hold all that stuff. ;-)

He might (?) be able to get two pro bodies in the top compartment, and maybe a strobe, and would definitely need the Lens Changer 75 ( http://www.thinktankphoto.com/ttp_product_LnsChngr75.php ) on one of the rails to pull it off. Putting the bodies into the backpack for storage and
transportation does take a lot of space. So yes, it seems possible, but only by using the Modulus components on one or two of the rails."

By the way, Think Tank have two very interesting and helpful pdf documents called "Fear For Your Gear", parts one and two. Really excellent information and I do recommend reading them. http://thinktankphoto.com/airport/

I hope this helps,

Steven
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2007, 01:35:24 PM »
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Hi Khurram,

I have a reply now about fitting your gear into the Rotation 360. As I suspected, you will need a component from the modulus system to get everything in.

I quote from Doug Murdock of Think Tank: "Of course, for travel on the plane we recommend the Airport Acceleration, ( http://www.thinktankphoto.com/ttp_product_ArprtAccel.php )
which will hold all that stuff. ;-)

He might (?) be able to get two pro bodies in the top compartment, and maybe a strobe, and would definitely need the Lens Changer 75 ( http://www.thinktankphoto.com/ttp_product_LnsChngr75.php ) on one of the rails to pull it off. Putting the bodies into the backpack for storage and
transportation does take a lot of space. So yes, it seems possible, but only by using the Modulus components on one or two of the rails."

By the way, Think Tank have two very interesting and helpful pdf documents called "Fear For Your Gear", parts one and two. Really excellent information and I do recommend reading them. http://thinktankphoto.com/airport/

I hope this helps,

Steven
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the reply and for forwarding on the reply from Doug Murdoch.  I think I'll wait until they create a slightly bigger bag.  As currently i already have a number of bags that meet my needs some of the time (i.e. Lowepro nature trekker, Slingshot 200, S&F Rover, Dryzone rover, Magnum and Tamrac Turbo Cyberpro).

I was hoping that the Rotation 360 would be a bag that could take the place of the nature trekker (which can hold 2 pro bodies with the 16-35 and 24-105 attached, 70-200 2.8LIS, 2x converter and three flashes plus other accessoires).  I really like the design of the rotation 360, but was hoping that i could fit a body with the lens attached on the bottom and top compartment + my 70-200L, 2x converter and a flash) for when i am traveling.  In the field, i thought i could use the bottom compartment to change lenses, and the top compartment to hold the second body.

Having an accessory to hold a lense or flash is fine in the field, but its a pain in the airport.  Moreover, I really don't want to travel with more then one camera bag unless i have my laptop (if i'm not traveling for work, i'll use my tamrac), but when i'm traveling for business, i have my work laptop and work related files in a carry-on and then take my nature trekker or S&F Rover as my other carry-on.  So i'm really not interested in the airport extreme.

I'm hoping that Think Tank will follow the same direction with the rotation 360 as Lowepro did with their Trekker series and offer different sizes (i.e. Nature Trekker, Trekker, Pro Trekker, micro-trekker).  IF the do come out with a rotation 360 that is a slightly bigger (i.e. holds two pro bodies with L-plates attached and lenses), I will definately pick one up.  For now, i guess i'll stick with my Lowepro bags.
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