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« on: April 28, 2007, 05:46:38 AM »
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Knowing that the readers of this board are critically evaluating their color work, I would like to pose this question for your recommendations.

I am looking at buying a larger monitor for my color work, because I often am in situations where the customer for my giclees is looking at the monitor with me to critically evaluate color before the print is made.

I would be interested in experiences of owners of monitors larger than the 24 inch DELL that I am using now, and what you might recommend.

I would like to add that I am very grateful for the several recommendations of the SINAR 54H, which based upon recommendation made here, I purchased and am using with great satisfaction.


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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2007, 06:46:29 AM »
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Put the NEC 2690wuxi on your list for consideration.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 07:25:15 AM »
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Another vote for the NEC 2690 - with the Spectraview option - a dream to callibrate.

What surprise me abut mine was that within about 15 minutes I'm thinking - this is a nice size, how could I have worked previously on the postage stamp sized 19"?
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2007, 10:48:17 AM »
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Try Eizo...

I have the Coloredge 24 monitor, it's wonderful...

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 11:01:31 AM »
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Neither Eizo nor Quato make anything over 24"

There is the Apple 30"

..and a new Lacie 26" with breakthrough pricing: http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1176393601.html
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 01:08:12 PM »
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That Lacie appears to be a rebadged NEC 2690wuxi (which is not unusual for Lacie) and its "breakthrough pricing" looks to be higher than the NEC's (which is also not unusual for Lacie).

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2007, 08:05:35 PM »
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Nill, you mean a rebadged NEC 2690 Spectraview?
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2007, 08:35:21 PM »
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I have a Eizo ColorEdge CE240W attached to my Mac Pro 8 core. It's awesome.

I also have a Dell 27 widescreen. It's very affordable, however, I could not get the neutral luminance to calibrate properly using Eye One unless I manually reduced the individual RGB channel brightness to about 75%. Other than that, it's a nice monitor too. Since I retired my Dell workstation, I use this monitor as the 2nd display for my MacBook Pro 15" in my home office.

I lust for the 30" Apple display now that I run Macs, however, I 've heard rumors that a new line of Apple displays are to be introduced later this year. We'll see.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 08:57:52 PM »
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Nill, you mean a rebadged NEC 2690 Spectraview?
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Well, I think it's a 2690wuxi one way or the other.  In the US, "SV" models come with the Spectraview software and an Eye One Display 2 colorimeter.  I understand that in Europe, the "Spectraview" designation means it comes with the Spectraview software (which is different from the US version) and a monitor hood, but no puck.  Or you can buy just the bare monitor.  In the US you can buy the Spectraview software separately.  In the past that was not possible in EU, you had to get it with the monitor or not at all.  I don't know whether that remains true or not.

All of which is more info than you asked for, sorry.  NEC 2690wuxi, either in SV/Spectraview flavors or not, it's a grand monitor.  It won Best of Show in the Display category at Mac Expo this winter.

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 10:15:56 PM »
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I am new at MF digital but I am very pleased with the Apple 30".  I calibrated it with an eye-one with out problems.  Today I shot some test shots with a gretagmacbeth color chart and the comparison between monitor and chart was very good with only WB adjustment.


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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2007, 05:48:05 AM »
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NEC 2690wuxi, either in SV/Spectraview flavors or not, it's a grand monitor.

I wonder if there is more difference between the wuxi and spectraview.

The wuxi is rated as covering 92% of AdobeRGB, and the SV covers 95%. That being the case, there are more differences than just accessories like a hood.

The LaCie covers 95% of AdobeRGB too, and looks identical to the SV so I assume it's a rebadged SV. I guess you could shop around and see which one you can find cheaper.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 05:59:39 AM »
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What's slightly disappointing about these monitors is that despite their size they have a resolution of only 1920x1200. I say 'only' because even my 14" laptop is 1400x1050. What is the point in having a large monitor without extra resolution?

Years ago some WQUXGA monitors were introduced: 3840x2400 (e.g. Viewsonic VP2290b, IBM T221).

What happened to these high-definition monitors?

Even the current Apple 30" is only 2560 x 1600 (or Dell UltraSharp 30" WFP, Samsung 305T) (Btw, I can't find a figure for this display's AdobeRGB coverage)

On the positive side, the LaCie and NEC can be rotated to portrait orientation which is great for editing portrait photos in Photoshop. Can that be done with the Apple 30'? Is there a stand which will allow this?
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 07:40:20 AM »
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Apple Cinema 30" - don't forget that for this monitor you'll need a graphics card that provides dual link DVI.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 08:15:55 AM »
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I wonder if there is more difference between the wuxi and spectraview.

The wuxi is rated as covering 92% of AdobeRGB, and the SV covers 95%. That being the case, there are more differences than just accessories like a hood.
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In the past, European "Spectraview" models were also "hand selected and calibrated."  (They also had a firmware tweak that made it impossible to run the Spectraview software on non-Spectraview versions of the monitors.)  AFAIK, this was not true of US models, and I don't have any idea whether it remains true for European models in the current line.  Is there any talk of that sort of thing in the European NEC literature?

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Years ago some WQUXGA monitors were introduced: 3840x2400 (e.g. Viewsonic VP2290b, IBM T221).

What happened to these high-definition monitors?

Those pricey displays were more marketed towards the medical industry for the 200ppi.  Its high resolution also required TWO (or more?) video cards to drive.
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What's slightly disappointing about these monitors is that despite their size they have a resolution of only 1920x1200. I say 'only' because even my 14" laptop is 1400x1050. What is the point in having a large monitor without extra resolution?
I'm also looking for a display with a higher than 1920x1200 resolution. FWIW, one non-obvious catch I've noticed during my search is the fact that there are problems with HDCP which doesn't work with higher resolutions/dual-link display modes on many graphics cards. I.e. if you want to to play protected content (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) check the specs carefully.

Personally, I don't need HDCP right now but I tend to use displays for a rather long time and I'm sure this will be an issue in the future.
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 11:26:55 AM »
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Those pricey displays were more marketed towards the medical industry for the 200ppi.  Its high resolution also required TWO (or more?) video cards to drive.
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they were great, 15 yrs ahead of their time, and are are still about on EBay, The T221 DC5 is the best and last version, but...
they have a quite restricted Gamut compared to modern monitors. (I have an icc profile for one somewhere), as it wasn't made for colour pros, but for technical design, nobody looked at the colour range much.
they also require a special card to drive , e.g Matrox makes one (its $2400)

they do NOT work off dual link cards, or even dual-dual link cards.

At the moment the best we have is 30" displays, though hopefully someone will move to at least 150dpi 30" monitor running from a dual dual link card soon.
I think the failure of the T221 (IBM lost a fortune on it) has scared most manufacturers away from ultra high res displays, though hopefully this will change.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 05:05:45 PM »
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That Lacie appears to be a rebadged NEC 2690wuxi (which is not unusual for Lacie) and its "breakthrough pricing" looks to be higher than the NEC's (which is also not unusual for Lacie).

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We are having a LaCie Open House on May 10. LaCie will be the featured vendor and the LaCie 526 LCD will be the featured product. We already have a LaCie 321 Color Accurate in demo/rental (a fine monitor, though not quite at the Eizo ColorEdge level, but close, and over $1,000 less). It will be interesting to compare the two.

We have also requested from LaCie information regarding the differences between the NEC version and the LaCie version. It is not necessarily an exact match, in terms of the entire package, and we have asked LaCie to provide this information to clarify any differences or advantages.

We prefer to sell the LaCie brand, as they are and have been focused on and committed to color accurate display technology for quite some time. It's a core part of their technology offerings. NEC is a much larger company for whom dropping the NEC 2690 technology would mean little in the overall scheme of things. We see NEC positioned similarly to Sony with regard to the Artisan monitor, which is a distant memory now for Sony and it's customers.

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2007, 01:55:14 AM »
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I would also like to get the Lacie.. but only if there is in indeed a difference from the NEC model.. otherwise I will go the NEC route.

Currently using 2405 Dell and calibrates ok, but viewing angles are horrible

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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2007, 04:04:41 AM »
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Hi all :-)
im working with the HP LP3065 and im in love with it :-)

here is a link to the HP webside:
HP LP3065

and here is an german review of the LP3065 :HP LP3065 review

Im using this tft with an NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT with no problems.

Editing pictures with PS CS is just like it should be ;-)
And pictures from a MFDB look perfect..they are so real that you think that  you can touch them :-)

kind regards
Janosch
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