Standard print and mat sizes

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dkabat:
Have just started printing with the 3800 in the last few months and was thinking that it might be a good idea to standardize print sizes for matting and framing purposes.  I think by doing this I can buy mats and frames in bulk, also it should help workflow a little.

Am interested in using 3 paper sizes - 8.5x11, 13x19 and 17x22.  You suggestions as to print size for each and a mat border size recommendation would be appreciated.

Any other comments also welcome.

Thanks
Dan

fdi:
13x19 Paper: If you have an SLR, which normally has an image aspect ratio of 3:2, this is a convenient size because it requires almost no cropping. An un-cropped 3:2 image printed on 13x19 paper will only lose one-half inch of the image. (In other words, the un-cropped image would measure 13x19.5 inches.) Another excellent image size for 13x19 paper is 12x18. This size creates its own border. The borders on the paper can be used for the artist's signature, or as a mounting aid utilizing photo corners . (The corners can be concealed with the mat.) Although mat boards with 12x18 and 13x19 openings are is not readily available some companies (like mine) offer mats with openings in these sizes and others will do custom . An 18x24 standard frame size with mat is ideal for these image sizes. With the 18x24 the 12x18 will have an even three-inch mat border surrounding the image, and the 13x19 will have an even 2.5 inch mat border.

Paper Size: 13x19
Standard Frame Sizes: 12x16
Non-standard frame Sizes: 12x18 , 13x19
Standard Matted Frame Size: 18x24
Recommended Image Sizes: 10x15, 12x16, 12x18, 13x19

17x22 Printer Paper Framing Options

This is ideal for 16x20 images, which have an infinite selection of matted and un-matted frames. Unfortunately, 16x20 is neither a 3:2 nor 4:3 ratio; 16x24 is the 3:2 ratio but can only be printed on 17-inch roll paper or the new 17x25 paper.

Paper Size: 17x22
Standard Frame Sizes: 16x20
Non-standard frame Sizes: 17x22
Standard Matted Frame Size: 20x24, 22x28
Recommended Image Sizes: 16x20, 17x22

8.5x11 Printer Paper Framing Options

Although 8x10 paper is available, 8.5x11 is a common paper size. Most 8.5x11 frames are designed for certificates rather that photos, although some specialty frame shops do offer 8.5x11 picture frames.

Summary of Options for 8.5x11 Paper
Paper Size: 8.5x11
Standard Frame Sizes: 8x10, 8.5x11
Non-standard frame Sizes: 8.5x11 (non-certificate frames less common)
Standard Matted Frame Size: 9x12, 11x14, 16x20

Cheers,
Mark

Frame Destination, Inc.
http://www.framedestination.com
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Have just started printing with the 3800 in the last few months and was thinking that it might be a good idea to standardize print sizes for matting and framing purposes.  I think by doing this I can buy mats and frames in bulk, also it should help workflow a little.

Am interested in using 3 paper sizes - 8.5x11, 13x19 and 17x22.  You suggestions as to print size for each and a mat border size recommendation would be appreciated.

Any other comments also welcome.

Thanks
Dan
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dkabat:
Thanks a lot Mark!

Dave Gurtcheff:
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Thanks a lot Mark!
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Dan: Great idea to standardize sizes; that's what I have done  
In my case, I make all *uncropped* 13"x19", 16"x24", and 20"x30" prints. The 13"x19" are in 20"x24" mats and frames; the 16"x24" prints are in 24"x30" mats and frames, and the 20"x30" prints are in 30"x36" mats and frames. I buy my sized mats with pre-cut bevel cut openings in bulk. I buy my glass by the case (standard glass sizes helped me select frame and mat sizes). I buy my frames in bulk. I buy fome core by the case. Obviously I give up some artistic freedom by carefully composing in camera (zoom lenses help here) so as not to have to crop from the 3:2 format. I have found if you inquire at your local hardware store, they will work with you on case prices for glass. My store special orders it for me and I get a 25% discount case price. They love it: comes in the back door, and, quite literally, out the front door. They don't even open it, no need to inventory and price it, etc. You may want to check this out.

Standardizing sizes allows me to sell at reasonable prices, but offer a hand made product (I print, mount, mat and frame all my own work). It has worked out well for me. I have found a "niche"...we live at a resort area on th NJ shore, and I specialize in local seascapes. I sell a finished product to visitors, home owners, etc. The kind of stuff I do is on my web site along with my prices, if you are interested. I have no affiliation with the following but I get great service buying frams from Frame Fit in Philadelphia, fome cores from Framingsupplies.com,  and pre cut mats from the Mat Shop in Calif.
Best of luck
Dave Gurtcheff
www.modernpictorials.com  

Alaska:
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I get great service buying frams from Frame Fit in Philadelphia, fome cores from Framingsupplies.com,  and pre cut mats from the Mat Shop in Calif.

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Do you have the URL for the Mat Shop?  Found a shop by that name in Blaine,
Washington but nothing in California.

Jim

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