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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2007, 12:01:53 PM »
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Jim,  its nice to know it really exists!
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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2007, 12:24:08 PM »
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I just received an overnight package from HP containing the correct oil.
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Hi Jim,
Glad you got the oil.

Would you have that HP part number handy?

The link in this thread returns a server error.

Could use some help.

Thanks, and so long for now, TOM
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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2007, 01:06:29 PM »
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i had a tech here 20 minutes ago and asked him about the oil. he said do not use 3 in 1 cuz it is not synthetic, its a fossil based oil. it is designed for high speed things like sewing machine (for which it was made) and that it is designed to be used up and reapplied frequently. and it will eat away the ball bearings in the printer. he said the synthetic oil that is factory applied will last about 2 years under normal conditions...so long as you can feel a trace of it, there is enough present. also said that using any other oil than the synthetic could void a warranty. hp uses the same stuff in all their printers.

for what it worth

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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2007, 02:01:04 PM »
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Quote from: dandeliondigital,Oct 17 2007, 10:24 AM
Would you have that HP part number handy?

Tom,

The pat number is:

6040-0855
Synthetic oil - 4oz (113g) plastic bottle

Jim
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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2007, 03:05:21 PM »
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6040-0855
Synthetic oil - 4oz (113g) plastic bottle
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Hi Jim,
Thanks much.

So long for now, TOM
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« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2007, 04:31:21 PM »
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Here is what the official HP oil and the cleaning alcohol look like, FWIW.  Note that mine, that came in the "lubrification" kit, has a different number than the one given in a previous post.
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« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2007, 06:46:46 PM »
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... and mine arrived today as well.  This is what the genuine article looks like:

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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2007, 08:08:26 PM »
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... and mine arrived today as well. This is what the genuine article looks like:

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I'm not sure if you are implying that mine is not, but sketchy as the packaging looks, it came directly from HP and it is genuine.  It was ordered for me by HP tech support as a part of what HP calls the "lubrification kit".  Had I received it from another vendor I might be suspicious, but mine even came with documentation in poorly translated English from Barcelona techs.  I posted the photo because others had said that their packaging from an outside vendor looked suspect.  So does the real thing.

FYI:  There's more to lubricating the printer than just oiling the main rod you see inside the door of the printer.  They call for oiling the back slider, the rod slider, the oiling module, and the carriage bushing reservoir.  I'm pretty comfortable with most tech related instructions, but can't really make heads or tails of the seven (sparse) pages of directions and crappy illustrations.  I am thinking that I may see a tech often enough to count on having him do this, at least the first time.  I'm pretty sure that you need to remove the cover to get at everything you need to, but couldn't swear to it unless provided with much better illustrations.

-Ron H.
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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2007, 01:30:43 PM »
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Here are HP's instructions for "lubrificating" our printers.  I've done nothing to degrade these odd illustrations, in fact, they are a little easier to make out in these scans than in the photocopies I scanned.  I have no idea what the pasted in rectangles are in most of the printer illustrations, but it is in keeping with the rest of it with it's typos and bass ackward labeling of cleaning cloth and alcohol in the second illustration.  The drawings definitely show the printer without it's cover.  I think the main rail we see inside the printer is what they call the rod slider, but I can't identify what the back rail is.  Can you?
-Ron H.

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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2007, 02:26:05 PM »
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Wow, this begs for someone to open up a printer and take photos.  I must admit I'm intrigued by the "oiling modul" in the one drawing.
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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2007, 02:55:08 PM »
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Wow, this begs for someone to open up a printer and take photos.
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Thanks for volunteering, Ron!
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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2007, 08:27:02 PM »
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Thanks for volunteering, Ron!
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  Perhaps next weekend.
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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2007, 07:27:48 PM »
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I was at the Photo Expo in NY today and when I questioned the HP rep about oiling he looked at me as if I was crazy.  He then asked a few of the others at the HP Booth and they all said that there is nothing that needs oiling and the only service users  should do is occasionally wipe down the platten for any flakes or dust that may accumulate.
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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2007, 08:41:01 PM »
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I was at the Photo Expo in NY today and when I questioned the HP rep about oiling he looked at me as if I was crazy. He then asked a few of the others at the HP Booth and they all said that there is nothing that needs oiling and the only service users should do is occasionally wipe down the platten for any flakes or dust that may accumulate.
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I'm not surprised that they would say that, but HP telephone tech support said that you should oil the carriage rails once a month.  My local tech person said that he was told that the user should also occasionally oil it as well.  They will tell you that you don't need to do any other routine maintenence until you wind up with lots of ink overspray inside the cover from doing high production printing.  When you ask them about the ink overspray being a problem, they will confess that you should be routinely cleaning the inside to prevent this buildup, wiping down the printhead compartment and other parts, but not before you put them on the spot about it.  I don't think it is very good marketing, as far as they are concerned, to bring this up with customers.

I'm interested to know if you gleaned any new information about the timing of a new firmware upgrade and the new transport roller design that was promised as a free upgrade to Z owners?  Also, were they showing any GP/Postscript/APS models?  I'm curious if this is still in their marketing plan.

Thanks,
Ron H.
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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2007, 05:14:11 AM »
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"I'm interested to know if you gleaned any new information about the timing of a new firmware upgrade and the new transport roller design that was promised as a free upgrade to Z owners?  Also, were they showing any GP/Postscript/APS models?  I'm curious if this is still in their marketing plan."

Was told that not sure when new firmware would be coming out.  Also, one rep I spoke to said that as long as you are happy with the prints, no need to get APS - he does not have it. Did not discuss the transport roller design.  However, since the show has one more day (today), perhaps someone who will be there will see this post and inquire further.
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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2007, 01:12:42 PM »
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Wow, this begs for someone to open up a printer and take photos.  I must admit I'm intrigued by the "oiling modul" in the one drawing.
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There are already photos on the wiki: [a href=\"http://z3100users.wikispaces.com/Maintenance+Tips]http://z3100users.wikispaces.com/Maintenance+Tips[/url]
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