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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 01:57:56 PM »
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If you don't want to comment, don't. But don't tell me not to.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 02:34:34 PM »
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For myself, I navigate very rapidly to Whatīs New and if nothing is, move right on over to these pages here. Clearly, I wasnīt even aware any ads were running; even if I was, so what - not my website, is it? Kind of presumptuous of any of us to suggest that our host take advice from us on how his site be run...

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My sentiments exactly. No big deal, I bet the majority of visitors or members ever really get to the bottom of the page.

But, if you buy from B&H already, what is the big deal. What I dislike is the newsletters that have floating ads that keep moving like some video game until you disable them.

I spend too much time in front of a computer screen each day so I like the relatively clean look of the LL website.

And, if it improves revenues which in turn allow Michael to offer more content so much the better.

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 05:08:19 PM »
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Good for you and all of us!  I just hope bh had a store down here.

 
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2007, 03:14:23 AM »
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John, didnīt think I had; simply made my own comment on how I saw things.

Frankly, why would I care whether you comment or not? Itīs your own ass on display, just as much as mine or that of any other poster - the decision to display or not to display is always our own.

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2007, 09:43:07 AM »
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I have no problem with the ad - (what ad really.) I will probably never purchase anything from B&H, as I try to keep my retail dollars, such as they are, as local as possible, and at least in my own country.

I wonder if Downtown Camera in Toronto might be interested in posting a small ad, with an added incentive of a small discount? Henry's?

I know that the great majority of visitors to LL are not Canadians, but still ... there is a hard core of us who would be well served by links to domestic retail, and perhaps something like a total 5% discount with 2% going to LL and 3% to the customer - or even 2% to LL and 3% to the Endowment Fund ...

I'm sure you guys at LL have nothing better to do with your time .. just a suggestion.
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2007, 09:06:29 PM »
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Had Michael not pointed it out, I'd have never seen the ad. It could have been there for the past three months for all we know.  Michael might need to shorten his pages so we get to see the ads at the bottom.  
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2007, 01:48:40 AM »
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John, didnīt think I had; simply made my own comment on how I saw things.
Then pay greater attention to how you express yourself.
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2007, 05:16:13 AM »
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Then pay greater attention to how you express yourself.
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Or how you interpret things, perchance?

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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2007, 06:39:22 AM »
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I actively like that I can purchase from a retailer I already know, trust and patronize regularly and see a small percentage going to support my favourite site. It's just like using an affinity credit card supporting your alma mater

Btw, I'm sure the same retail acumen which makes B&H such a pleasure to deal with no doubt informed their decision to accept (or propose?) a very small and unobtrusive ad while 'cracking' the exclusive LL medium.  It's a good thing all around.

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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2007, 08:10:36 AM »
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I actively like that I can purchase from a retailer I already know, trust and patronize regularly and see a small percentage going to support my favourite site. It's just like using an affinity credit card supporting your alma mater

Btw, I'm sure the same retail acumen which makes B&H such a pleasure to deal with no doubt informed their decision to accept (or propose?) a very small and unobtrusive ad while 'cracking' the exclusive LL medium.  It's a good thing all around.

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That's my take on it, too.
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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2007, 10:28:41 AM »
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Or how you interpret things, perchance?

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Wouldn't be needed if you expressed yourself clearly.
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« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2007, 10:32:17 AM »
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OK gentleman. Please give it a rest.

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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2007, 03:31:44 AM »
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Hi,

I have no problem with Michael placing 3rd party ads on his site as long as they are not in "in-your-face" like you see on some other sites.

I do think a better place for it (IMHO) would be between the "Search this site" and the copyright notice in the left column. It would not detract from the content or menus options  of the site and might generate more traffic to B&H because it would not be stuck at the bottom. I can't remember the last time I scrolled all the way down to the bottom :-)

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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2007, 09:04:13 PM »
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm pleased that it's mostly positive. I'll see about changing it to open a new window.

Also, it's my intention to keep the ad small and unobtrusive, but I will experiment with other placements.

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Would it be possible to have a 2 tiered membership: 1. Free with ads and 2. Yearly fee without ads.  If the ads require a large footprint, I would prefer to pay a yearly fee and not see the ads.
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2007, 03:18:03 AM »
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James, was someone in your family frightened by an ad man?

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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2007, 06:26:08 AM »
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James,

Since the ads are trivial in size and frequency I don't see the point of instituting your suggestion.

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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2007, 07:47:16 AM »
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Since the ads are trivial in size and frequency I don't see the point of instituting your suggestion.

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Personally, I do not see what all the fuss is about. The B&H ads are unobtrusive and support the LL site, which is a valuable resource to photographers. Problems with conflict of interest can arise when the ads are placed by vendors whose products are reviewed on the site. Whether or not such ads might affect editorial content would depend on the integrity of the reviewer and the proportion of the reviewer's revenue that is derived from the ads.

Popular Photography rarely says anything bad about Canon or Nikon products. Many years ago the Zoom-Nikkor 43-86 mm f/3.5 was quite popular (I bought one), but image quality was abysmal (Bjorn gives it a rating of 1 to 1.5, slightly above the use for paper weight category). Pop Photo (or was it Modern Photography, which merged with Pop Photo) simply refused to review the lens.

It seems as if this conflict of interest is especially prominent for US magazines, and some of the French, German, and British publications are more trustworthy. I think most LL users regard Michael as trustworthy. And he is Canadian.  

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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2007, 10:12:49 AM »
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It would be a real toss up on who has more of my money, B&H or the casinos in Las Vegas    that said I had completely forgot about the ad until this morning and say this thread once again.  

I’m scratching my head here trying to figure out what the big deal is here.

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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2007, 10:24:26 AM »
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There is no big deal...just a few vocal dorks.
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« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2007, 10:02:04 PM »
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James, was someone in your family frightened by an ad man?

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Not frightened, just tired of excessive ads on some sites.  Mike answered my questons.  My suggestion was proposed only if the ads would required a large amount of site space.
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