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jpjespersen
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« on: November 03, 2007, 12:31:05 PM »
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Has anyone used this system  http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl;jsession...1&category=4539

It looks promising.
Thanks,
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2007, 12:50:58 PM »
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I'm very interested in this as well but have not taken the plunge.  Anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2007, 06:32:24 PM »
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Fine if you don't mind voiding your warranty (or using inks that have not been tested by Wilhelm or others for longevity)
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 06:35:39 PM »
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They are brand new.. Oct 29th was the announcement.  Therefore I am sure there will be much testing in the future, and judging by the fact that they are 100% pigment inks,  they are more archival then Epson K3
Also about voiding the warranty, not true.  Read this quoted from John Cone.

On replacing EPSON inks with another brand The number one concern and fallacy about replacing EPSON inks with a third party ink is that it will void your warranty. This simply is not true in the USA because consumers are protected by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act which prevents a company from voiding equipment warranties when another brand of consumables are used in conjunction with the hardware. And The MAGNUSON-MOSS WARRANTY IMPROVEMENT ACT even goes further to strengthen the use of third party inks. It specifically states: “© No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name" Actually there are many compelling reasons for using another brand of inks in your EPSON printer. Certainly cost is a consideration. EPSON Brand ink is expensive. If you can save 30% or as much as 80% on the cost of ink, the savings in a year can add up to the cost of the next generation of printer. Another reason however, is that often third party companies are able to produce an ink which is more conducive to your application. For example, EPSON needs to compromise when it makes inks. It has to satisfy the average consumer. I sell inks such as my monochromatic inks which produce the highest standard for black & white printing. This is a no compromise product. I also sell inks for my good friends at Media Street who makes an excellent color pigment ink which can be used even in older generation printers. Many of my customers resurrect their older generation printers to use with archival pigment inks. EPSON does not make their newer ink technology for their older printers. So this is also a great reason to buy third party inks. It can mean the difference between buying a new printer.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 09:49:11 PM »
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Has anyone used this system  http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl;jsession...1&category=4539

It looks promising.
Thanks,
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I've been using a similar funnel fill cartridge system from MIS with their K4 inks (minus the LLK) in my Epson 4000 for 1 1/2 years.  They have worked very well with no maintenance problems at all.  I also turned off the printer's ink level monitoring so I never have to remove the carts for chip reset, just top off the ink when I see that levels are getting low.  I use the ColorBurst X-Photo RIP and make my own CMYK profiles for this system.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 07:01:02 PM »
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Using 3rd party inks does not void your Epson warranty. Epson has the option, clearly stated in the Extended Warranty agreement, that if non-Epson consumables are determined to be the cause of a service issue, the warranty will not be honored. Fair enough. In 7 years of Epson LF printing I've personally never had a service call denied because of a non-Epson inkset. Everyone's entitled to their opinion about what inks to use or not use of course, but let's keep the facts straight.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 08:51:39 PM »
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Using 3rd party inks does not void your Epson warranty. Epson has the option, clearly stated in the Extended Warranty agreement, that if non-Epson consumables are determined to be the cause of a service issue, the warranty will not be honored. Fair enough. In 7 years of Epson LF printing I've personally never had a service call denied because of a non-Epson inkset. Everyone's entitled to their opinion about what inks to use or not use of course, but let's keep the facts straight.
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Exactly. That tactic may have made me hesitate back when I was considering putting some Lysonic E carts in my EX ten years ago, of course I did it anyway.
The entire community knows better these days.
You can bet they will have some longevity info at some point for us as well.
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