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« on: January 15, 2008, 03:04:39 PM »
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Here's the link to their press release from Macworld today.   Their estimated street price is $2200.

http://www.necdisplay.com/NewsAndMediaCent...a8-873403598c0f
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 07:09:01 PM »
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Here's the link to their press release from Macworld today.   Their estimated street price is $2200.

http://www.necdisplay.com/NewsAndMediaCent...a8-873403598c0f
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They got a best of show:

[a href=\"http://www.macworld.com/article/131642/2008/01/bos.html]http://www.macworld.com/article/131642/2008/01/bos.html[/url]
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 08:40:35 PM »
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Here's the link to their press release from Macworld today.   Their estimated street price is $2200.

http://www.necdisplay.com/NewsAndMediaCent...a8-873403598c0f
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Very impressive display - pity I recently purchased the 2690 WUXI! :-)
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 10:39:42 AM »
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..."Until they come out and someone tests them properly (like Karl Lang over at [a href=\"http://www.lumita.com)]http://www.lumita.com)[/url], we'll have to wait and see."
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 11:08:03 AM »
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..."Until they come out and someone tests them properly (like Karl Lang over at http://www.lumita.com, we'll have to wait and see."
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One should be on its way to Karl.

Also note, this is based on existing NEC technology Karl HAS tested and should have up for review (ColorComp, etc).

And I'll agree, a best of show at MacWorld isn't at all based on anything approaching the kind of testing we'll see from Karl.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 11:28:32 AM »
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Where does Karl Lang publish his findings on monitors ? I saw only technical papers on his website. Did I miss anything ?
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 11:39:08 AM »
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Here's the link to their press release from Macworld today.   Their estimated street price is $2200.[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=167398\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
So probably well over $3000 in the UK.  

<rant>I have a dual monitor set up just as big real estate wise and in many ways I prefer dual monitors, but as Adobe seem to have decided of late, not to bother designing their software with dual setups as a consideration. I'm now being forced to consider spending a silly amount of money to make up for Adobe's poor implementation.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 11:55:56 AM »
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Where does Karl Lang publish his findings on monitors ? I saw only technical papers on his website. Did I miss anything ?
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They should be up on his site soon. This site is newly designed, so he's still getting all the data up for us to view.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 08:57:28 PM »
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fwiw.. I have two NEC 2190UXi's, about $1000 per each.
Real working screen space; 32 inches Horz x 12 inches Vert.
Use Datacolor Spyder3Elite to calibrate and profile.
Way better than good enough.
On WinXP, I prefer two monitors over one large screen.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2008, 03:56:00 AM »
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<rant>I have a dual monitor set up just as big real estate wise and in many ways I prefer dual monitors, but as Adobe seem to have decided of late, not to bother designing their software with dual setups as a consideration. I'm now being forced to consider spending a silly amount of money to make up for Adobe's poor implementation.
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I agree. Many people use a dual set up and much software supports it. How difficult is it for Adobe to get LR, for example, to work on 2 monitors? I have a sort of work round by stretching it on to my second monitor but its far from ideal. Same with Bridge.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 04:18:35 AM »
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Bridge is reasonably OK on two monitors as I use the panel layout to fit the monitors - the preview panel fills RH monitor, but Bridge falls down when it comes to the slideshow. PS also centres the image all the time with two monitors, so you keep having to drag it across to the monitor you want every time you alter zoom or window mode. Though PS seems to function better on the Mac with two screens.


My workaround with LR, with added benefits [more slider finesse] is to set up LR like this


Go to Jeffrey's LR config Manager to be able to customise LR.  Jeffrey Friedl is quite a clever chap, other LR goodies on his site.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2008, 08:33:56 AM »
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Here's the link to their press release from Macworld today.   Their estimated street price is $2200.

http://www.necdisplay.com/NewsAndMediaCent...a8-873403598c0f
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I wonder how it compares to the new Dell 30" monitor, which claims 100% NTSC ("100% color gamut (typical) – Based on test standards CIE1931 (100.6%) and CIE1976 (115%") and "and can support up to Adobe 98 color standard" (not sure what that is exactly supposed to mean).  But overall it also sounds promising.  Cost is similar to the NEC at $1999.
See: [a href=\"http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=223-4890]http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/product...04&sku=223-4890[/url]

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2008, 10:16:20 AM »
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I wonder how it compares to the new Dell 30" monitor, which claims 100% NTSC ("100% color gamut (typical) – Based on test standards CIE1931 (100.6%) and CIE1976 (115%") and "and can support up to Adobe 98 color standard" (not sure what that is exactly supposed to mean).  But overall it also sounds promising.  Cost is similar to the NEC at $1999.
See: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/product...04&sku=223-4890

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It will be interesting to see how it compares to [a href=\"http://www.samsung.com/us/pdf/XLseriesBrochure01042008.pdf]Samsung's XL30[/url]
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2008, 12:19:09 PM »
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Is NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXi the same monitor only in a smaller size? Where is it possible to order the 24" version with the included calibration software? Even when I search for NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXiSV, the links always send my to the unit without the include calibration. From reading previous posts the included calibration software is worth the extra cost. However I already own an Eye-One display calibration puck, is the system with the NEC that superior, or is it a matter of splitting hairs? Is there a stray light hood available as an accessory? I have a Lacie 321 that has a hood which I like. One last question how does the NEC compare to the Lacie 321.


Thanks for any advice or opinions.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2008, 01:11:53 PM »
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Is NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXi the same monitor only in a smaller size? Where is it possible to order the 24" version with the included calibration software?

Essentially it (the 26) the same only smaller. The 24 is an sRGB gamut display

Check out the posts on this forum:

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00OMAS

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The -SV monitors will be on backorder until the end of February due to logistical issues.

To make up for the current temporary shortage of -SV units in the sales channel, the price of the SVII-KIT has been temporarily reduced to $199.99 until Feb 29. This should bring the price of the separate display and SV-KIT to about the same as getting a -SV unit.

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So I would recommend you purchase the monitor and SVII-KIT separately if you don't want to wait any longer.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2008, 01:31:42 PM »
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Andrew,

Thanks for the quick reply (I was hoping you would chime in). Are you saying the 24" and 26" panels are different color spaces? I prefer the proportions of the 24", but would I purchase the 26" if it had a wider gamut.

Thanks

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2008, 01:34:16 PM »
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Are you saying the 24" and 26" panels are different color spaces? I prefer the proportions of the 24", but would I purchase the 26" if it had a wider gamut.
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Yes, the 24 is an sRGB gamut-like display and quite excellent based on the testing and reports from Karl Lang at PPE last year. The 26 is a wide gamut ("93%" of Adobe RGB (1998)). The new 30" will also be a wide gamut unit.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2008, 01:42:19 PM »
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Yes, the 24 is an sRGB gamut-like display and quite excellent based on the testing and reports from Karl Lang at PPE last year. The 26 is a wide gamut ("93%" of Adobe RGB (1998)). The new 30" will also be a wide gamut unit.
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Am I missing something, wouldn't it be a no brainer to purchase the 26" for only $100 more?
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2008, 11:36:54 PM »
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I just finally replaced my two aging 22" CRTs (more like 20" - they should get sued for false advertisement!) and looked around a lot. I originally was aiming to go for two (!) 30", as I was lured by all the extra pixels and already have a graphics board capable of driving two of these. Was checking out the Dell but heard bad stories on uniformity end-to-end.

Finally settled on two Eizo SX2461Ws, which did not disappoint at all. I lost a bit of pixel real estate, as I ran my CRTs at 1796x1344 vs. the LCDs 1920x1200, but not much and the view is noticeably larger (24" vs. 20" diagonals). I now like them better than the CRTs but took some adjusting to and I do need to position myself a bit for critical viewing, but well worth the slight inconvenience.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2008, 08:10:02 AM »
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I have just bought the new dell 3008wfp 30 inch and it is very good indeed.
I put a profile i made with my eye-one here for download. the gamut is about Adobe RGB

There are a lot of new and good 30 inch screens coming; Eizo 3031- samsung LX30- the Nec- and i am shure Apple wil update its screens soon. The Dell is the cheapest and has the most type of connectors including a new display port and a cardreader port that works fast.
I am sure the other displays are a bit better but are about double the price- or more.
the reason:
better electronics- more uniform backlichting- a 14bit Lut instead od the 10bit  the Dell has.
I have not seen the competition so I can only say that the Dell hes some problems that I consider minor.
1 backlighting not perfect top slightly more blue than the bottom.
2 not perfectly uniform backlighting.
3 when making a gradient in photoshop you will see some rings ( banding)- even slightly coloured ones.
being a photographer all these problems are of no great interest to me since they don't play a role when i watch my photographs that look well on the screen. If I do see banding I consider it as a warning - because also my camera- and printer are not that perfect either...
colours great- I can get my monitor on a value 0,71 from perfect with only the extreme reds popping out at 2.2- contrast - dark and light areas are in line with my prints on the z3100
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