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« on: January 31, 2008, 10:05:44 PM »
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His story afterwards.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2008, 01:38:08 AM »
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Full of character with great depth of field.  Good job!
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2008, 11:02:42 AM »
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He has suffered greatly and is wary of what the future will hold.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2008, 11:44:49 AM »
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great portrait.  I wonder how it would look if the side light were from the other side.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2008, 01:04:39 PM »
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Thanks Bruce! He is an interesting man.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 01:05:22 PM »
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Yes, he is still a gentle soul.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008, 01:07:22 PM »
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great portrait.  I wonder how it would look if the side light were from the other side.
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I wish I could show you the original photo, I don't have it on PBase but it shows the lighting.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008, 01:10:29 PM »
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Ok, the link to the two photographs is still active at the Fred Miranda's site.

Here is the link if you want to see the original photo  

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/596559

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2008, 03:02:13 PM »
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I like your treatment of the final image. It really dramatizes the portrait in a good way.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 09:45:06 AM »
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The Milo and Don Anselmo images share some similarities and would make a great collection. The (final) lighting treatments and compositions are the same: gritty, and frame filling. (Makes me wonder if they are cropped and edited the same way from their originals to achieve the similarities.) The somewhat empty stares beg a viewer to wonder what are on their minds and what kind of lives they must have.

When I capture this kind of head shots, I often rotate them horizontally to see how they would look differently. In both cases, I think a rotation would improve the images. Anselmo seems to take on a more positive outlook into the future. Milo, OTOH, seems to be just raising an eye (with catch lights) from a distraught state in a questioning or challenging manner. Between the four, I like the rotated Anselmo the most.

A few VERY picky comments:

- In both images, there are too many catch light spots in one eye.

- Parts of Anselmo's left (unrotated) forehead and cheek have a distinct skin tone that is different from the rest of the face. Perhaps due to lighting, but may look better if corrected.

- There is a small hot spot below Milo's left (unrotated) ear lobe.

Lastly, what in the world is "Lazio effect"?
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 11:54:23 PM »
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Thank you Eric for taking the time to look at the original  I was trying to create a mood with these photos as part of little series.

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 11:59:30 PM »
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The Milo and Don Anselmo images share some similarities and would make a great collection. The (final) lighting treatments and compositions are the same: gritty, and frame filling. (Makes me wonder if they are cropped and edited the same way from their originals to achieve the similarities.) The somewhat empty stares beg a viewer to wonder what are on their minds and what kind of lives they must have.

When I capture this kind of head shots, I often rotate them horizontally to see how they would look differently. In both cases, I think a rotation would improve the images. Anselmo seems to take on a more positive outlook into the future. Milo, OTOH, seems to be just raising an eye (with catch lights) from a distraught state in a questioning or challenging manner. Between the four, I like the rotated Anselmo the most.

A few VERY picky comments:

- In both images, there are too many catch light spots in one eye.

- Parts of Anselmo's left (unrotated) forehead and cheek have a distinct skin tone that is different from the rest of the face. Perhaps due to lighting, but may look better if corrected.

- There is a small hot spot below Milo's left (unrotated) ear lobe.

Lastly, what in the world is "Lazio effect"?
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Hello Chris, great post! I am a little confused about the rotation you described, could you post those versions? Yes the skin tone was due to the lighting being a little challenging, they were not sit down sessions but rather quick photos between our dialogue. The Lazlo effect is really a tutorial that I saw in a forum and I changed for my style of photography
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008, 10:32:25 AM »
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Hello Chris, great post! I am a little confused about the rotation you described, could you post those versions? Yes the skin tone was due to the lighting being a little challenging, they were not sit down sessions but rather quick photos between our dialogue. The Lazlo effect is really a tutorial that I saw in a forum and I changed for my style of photography
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Glad you did not find my comments offensive  

By rotation, I meant that in PS, Image>Rotate Canvas>Flip Canvas Horizontal. Some images, like these two, would look quite different while at the same time maintain the context and objectivity. But some would consider this too "manipulative". Would like to hear what you think about the rotations.

Since I also shoot such portraits in available light, I do appreciate the challenges. We can't control/adjust the lighting, the subject posing, or the background. We can only shoot a lot, with different compositions, and pray for luck. Your two images, after editing the originals, address these problems very well. As I said, I was being VERY picky about the skin tone differences. OTOH, this is something that can be easily corrected digitally, if so desired.

Do you have a link for that Lazio effect tutorial?
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008, 11:05:21 AM »
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Glad you did not find my comments offensive   

By rotation, I meant that in PS, Image>Rotate Canvas>Flip Canvas Horizontal. Some images, like these two, would look quite different while at the same time maintain the context and objectivity. But some would consider this too "manipulative". Would like to hear what you think about the rotations.

Since I also shoot such portraits in available light, I do appreciate the challenges. We can't control/adjust the lighting, the subject posing, or the background. We can only shoot a lot, with different compositions, and pray for luck. Your two images, after editing the originals, address these problems very well. As I said, I was being VERY picky about the skin tone differences. OTOH, this is something that can be easily corrected digitally, if so desired.

Do you have a link for that Lazio effect tutorial?
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Hello Chris! Ok I know thta they are photographers that barely touch their photos because doing too much in PS they think is somehow dishonest. I like to try everything and I certainly will try the rotation  
The Lazlo tutorial is at

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If you can not access it for some reason I will e-mail you the text.

Thanks,

Andres
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 09:39:35 AM »
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Hello Chris! Ok I know thta they are photographers that barely touch their photos because doing too much in PS they think is somehow dishonest. I like to try everything and I certainly will try the rotation  
The Lazlo tutorial is at

http://www.kentdesign1.com/nuke_new/html/toning_tutorial.php

If you can not access it for some reason I will e-mail you the text.

Thanks,

Andres
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That link worked fine, thanks.
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