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« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2008, 09:03:37 AM »
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It crashes for me under vista a lot.  It also just likes to run poorly.  Maybe I'll turn (I cannot type.  Really wish I would have worn gloves while shoveling the driveway this morning.) off kaspersky before installing it next time.
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« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2008, 09:12:23 AM »
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Well, it's not the source file.

Try running in safe mode, it's probably something else you have running/installed.  Try reinstalling.
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« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2008, 12:46:05 AM »
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Just a bit of congratulations on the HD version. Well done! I also notice that Chris' videography has improved significantly from the early days. The videography is a pleasure to watch even on its own. The elephant romp was particularly entertaining and so are the from the ship scenes. With perhaps just the right amount of compression. I watch on a 70" screen via a PS3. Works like a charm. I just burn a DVD with the mpg4 files and slip it into the PS3. While the HD is not quite up to out-of-camera quality, the 3 to 4 GB are already a major hassle for me to download   After waiting patiently for my ADSL to download at 300 Kbaud, I decided to upgrade to a 1 Mbaud G3+ connection at enormous cost. That goes faster, but GBytes are still GB. No way around the many hours downloading in the boonies of Oman. So please continue keeping each volume under the capacity of one DVD (4.7 GB). I continue to be amazed at how high an HD quality I can get from a $1000 Canon HV20 but to retain that quality level I need to use mpg2 (at 12 GB per hour). So the mpg4 versions are plenty nice considering the circumstances. Perhaps in the future you guys may consider enabling us to download all the episodes in one overnight run? I now have to download one episode and then tickle the PC to get the next episode. You did tell us not to do simultaneous downloads, and I am trying to be a good boy...
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« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2008, 04:15:42 AM »
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I'm a charter subscriber to the VJ. Kudos for the HD version!

After downloading the VJ-17 HD, I dragged the files to iTunes on my MacPro and via the marvel of AppleTV, I enjoy the HD quality on my 52" plasma TV in my family room. Aaahh, life is good.

Michael and Chris, thanks for the good stuff!

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« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2008, 06:45:42 AM »
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Thanks Bud and everyone,

I just installed an Apple TV this past weekend and watched the Antarctica segment on my 42" plasma screen for the first time. It really is quite something, isn't it? Even I'm impressed.  

Download video has come an awfully long way in just the past year or so, and it makes our decision to move away from shipping plastic discs even more compelling.

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« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2008, 05:40:21 AM »
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The fun of the LLVJ was it would arrive with the post, and you could just pop it in the DVD player and watch it, all or part, then file and review later.   And watching it on a decent Sony Bravia widescreen TV (even with standard DVD resolution) made the whole experience even more fun.  It was a treat that dropped on your doormat.  No post processing was required.

Now the subscription renewals have been stopped and the pressure is on to - do what, download, burn to some spare DVD using some other software to convert for TV use?  Or watch huddled over your PC or laptop monitor.  Vista problems, Apple TV...er, no thanks.

It does not matter if download is "simple" (something of a subjective test); for me it defeats the object.  Sometimes form is as important as content.  Keep the DVD option and reinstate subscription renewals is my preference.

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« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2008, 05:50:44 AM »
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The fun of the LLVJ was it would arrive with the post, and you could just pop it in the DVD player and watch it, all or part, then file and review later.   And watching it on a decent Sony Bravia widescreen TV (even with standard DVD resolution) made the whole experience even more fun.  It was a treat that dropped on your doormat.  No post processing was required.

Now the subscription renewals have been stopped and the pressure is on to - do what, download, burn to some spare DVD using some other software to convert for TV use?  Or watch huddled over your PC or laptop monitor.  Vista problems, Apple TV...er, no thanks.

It does not matter if download is "simple" (something of a subjective test); for me it defeats the object.  Sometimes form is as important as content.  Keep the DVD option and reinstate subscription renewals is my preference.

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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV. It's great! Better than DVDs because I can just call it up from the menu any time that I want.

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« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2008, 08:57:16 AM »
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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV. It's great! Better than DVDs because I can just call it up from the menu any time that I want.

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Reading a little about AppleTV it sounds as if I would have to spend somewhere between US $230 and $300 just for the box, then buy separately all the cables needed to hook it to my TV, or better yet to the HD converter box that I will be forced to buy soon, for maybe another $50 (cables for the AppleTV). Once I have that in my living room, I still need to download the videos from LL onto my PC, and then get the files from the PC (in my home office) to the AppleTV (in the living room).

So I bore some holes through floors or walls and string Cat 5E cable from my router to the AppleTV. Does the AppleTV have a USB port so I could transfer the files to it using a memory stick? Probably not.

In any case, it sure would take a lot of additional expense and effort to make the downloads as convenient to use as the old DVDs. So I'm with Quentin on this, but I realize that I am mourning the passing of the buggy whip.

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« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2008, 09:14:23 AM »
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Apple TV is wireless.  And it's worth every penny!

If you are a NAPP member it's only $215 shipped!

I use Apple TV to stream my entire movie collection - no more 2500 DVD cases and shelf units in my living room - now I have a big DROBO and everything is at my fingertips!

Watching the LLVJ is a nice side benefit too

It's also great for music - now I have my whole 70GB collection available on my living room theater surround system, not just my computer system and ipod!
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« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2008, 09:36:49 AM »
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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV.
I fully second Bud's suggestion. I was skeptical but purchased a refurbished one for $125 (Swiss Apple Store) and I like it very much. I can stream wirelessly from other computers or store content on it. Quality is great, even on a large screen.
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« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2008, 09:43:18 AM »
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No chance.  I have a perfectly good DVD player.  As I said, I don't want the complication.   The solution is not for me to buy my way out of a problem that need not exist in the first place.

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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2008, 10:35:46 AM »
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I find it remarkably irritating that I can never watch these things via quicktime.  Does quicktime actually run for anyone else.  This isn't the first windows machine I've had that chokes constantly trying to run that.

Well worth the effort to install VLC media player, however.
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I have the opposite problem.  LLVJ plays OK with Quicktime on my laptop but Quicktime completely takes over once it is installed -- even if all file associations are unchecked during installation of Quicktime.  As a result, Quicktime completely ruins all my normal business file associations.  So I have to install Quicktime just for LLVJ  and then uninstall Quicktime afterward.  Previously, I used AoA DVD Creator to make a DVD but it no longer works with LLVJ files either.  Watching LLVJ has become a "procedure" that is a bit tedious.

What is VLC media player?  Could this be the answer to my problem?
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« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2008, 10:52:47 AM »
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I have the opposite problem.  LLVJ plays OK with Quicktime on my laptop but Quicktime completely takes over once it is installed -- even if all file associations are unchecked during installation of Quicktime.  As a result, Quicktime completely ruins all my normal business file associations.  So I have to install Quicktime just for LLVJ  and then uninstall Quicktime afterward.  Previously, I used AoA DVD Creator to make a DVD but it no longer works with LLVJ files either.  Watching LLVJ has become a "procedure" that is a bit tedious.

What is VLC media player?  Could this be the answer to my problem?
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If you are in Windows just download the latest version of Windows Media Player and it plays the HD versions very nicely. Older versions of WMP may not.
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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2008, 11:14:11 AM »
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For those windows users that want to put it on DVD discs This program works great - just drag and drop the segments and it makes you a regular DVD.  http://www.dvdflick.net/
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« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2008, 11:27:36 AM »
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« Reply #75 on: March 27, 2008, 10:55:16 AM »
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No chance.  I have a perfectly good DVD player.  As I said, I don't want the complication.   The solution is not for me to buy my way out of a problem that need not exist in the first place.

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There is, admittedly, an inconvenience at your end.  You have to download this excellent content, burn it to DVD and then play it.  The truth of the matter is that you can probably end up with the content faster doing this than you would if you waited for the DVD in the mail.

Now contrast your inconvenience against the inconvenience involved in the old system.  The wonderful guys producing everything had to arrange for replication of a vast number of copies, determine the correct postage to each and every destination, and then send them all out while hoping that not too many of them would either go missing en route or get damaged prior to arrival.

One situation has a limited inconvenience distributed to people who do not watch the show on a display connected to a computer. The other situation concentrates a lot of inconvenience and cost on a small group of people.

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« Reply #76 on: March 27, 2008, 11:09:39 AM »
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There is, admittedly, an inconvenience at your end.  You have to download this excellent content, burn it to DVD and then play it.  The truth of the matter is that you can probably end up with the content faster doing this than you would if you waited for the DVD in the mail.

Now contrast your inconvenience against the inconvenience involved in the old system.  The wonderful guys producing everything had to arrange for replication of a vast number of copies, determine the correct postage to each and every destination, and then send them all out while hoping that not too many of them would either go missing en route or get damaged prior to arrival.

One situation has a limited inconvenience distributed to people who do not watch the show on a display connected to a computer. The other situation concentrates a lot of inconvenience and cost on a small group of people.

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I don't care if Chris has to swim lake ontario with a dingy full of DVDs strapped to his behind if it means I get what I want at the least inconvenience to me.  It's all about me.
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« Reply #77 on: March 27, 2008, 12:46:51 PM »
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I don't care if Chris has to swim lake ontario with a dingy full of DVDs strapped to his behind if it means I get what I want at the least inconvenience to me.  It's all about me.
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Well, the customer IS supposed to come first...  

As it is, for me it's a matter of cost. I'd have to subscribe to some rather expensive (to me) high-speed internet to make downloading that much content practical. I don't consider burning it to DVD that big a deal (once I do it a few times - since I haven't done such before, I'd need to learn how), but I would morn the loss of the nice artwork on the DVD itself. So when my current subscription expires, I'll be totally dependent on a certain friend (he knows who he is on here!) whose has high-speed to download and burn the content to DVD for me, or hope my employer doesn't mind me downloading several GB.

Until high-speed internet becomes practical and reasonable (in cost) for the vast majority of us, I do think completely dropping the DVD option is a bit premature. The infrastructure just isn't quite "there" yet.
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« Reply #78 on: March 27, 2008, 12:57:22 PM »
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Oh, it's there.  The vast majority of the US has at LEAST one high speed option.

Now if it's worth it for someone to purchase, that's another story.  Pretty much everyone I know under 65 has high speed and has had it for some time.  My parents are still holding out on Juno, because all they do is casual surfing and email a few times a week.  Pushing 70, I think that's a fine option for them.

Most working professionals view high speed internet as vital as the telephones was for the past 50 years in the home.

If you cater your business model to those on dial-up, you are a dinosaur, catering to the minority.
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Oh, it's there.  The vast majority of the US has at LEAST one high speed option.

Now if it's worth it for someone to purchase, that's another story.  Pretty much everyone I know under 65 has high speed and has had it for some time.  My parents are still holding out on Juno, because all they do is casual surfing and email a few times a week.  Pushing 70, I think that's a fine option for them.

Most working professionals view high speed internet as vital as the telephones was for the past 50 years in the home.

If you cater your business model to those on dial-up, you are a dinosaur, catering to the minority.
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Actually, it's more an option for those with higher disposable income (in my view). I want to see it become as cheap as dial-up and is truly viewed as a vital service, rather than simply reserved for those willing to pay the high price for it.  And unfortunately, until it becomes regulated like current land-line telephone service is, I think the current providers are going to continue their current "price-gouging". (Sadly, there just isn't enough competition yet, and there won't ever be as long as only a couple of monopolies control the access.)

And there are still many areas in the US (and a lot more in the rest of the world), who simply don't have the option at all yet. So no, I don't think it is "there" yet.
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