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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2008, 08:48:04 AM »
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What I found interesting and disconcerting was Jeff's continuing to regard a raw file as gray scale and an RGB TIFF as color despite our previous discussion on the Adobe Camera Raw forum.


I figured that would surface from you (assuming that you actually purchased the video, that's good). You guys don't agree. And there's nothing in the video with respect to what Jeff is describing that dilutes what he shows for this level of audience. Do we really need to go down this rabbit hole of semantics AGAIN?
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2008, 10:18:11 AM »
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I miss that fresh, clean, modern, fine looking, tastfull setting from the Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Tutorial in Camera to Adobe Raw.
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2008, 11:18:15 AM »
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Watch it, or Jeff will jump down your rabbit hole.  

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2008, 11:24:49 AM »
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Watch it, or Jeff will jump down your rabbit hole.   

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Jeff's behavior has changed dramatically over the years (maybe not when he's with you Michael). Now he simply challenges those who don't agree with him to arm wrestling.
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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2008, 11:49:20 AM »
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Ah - nothing better than watching these through the Apple TV on the couch   Great job guys, this is very interesting as usual!
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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2008, 02:26:52 PM »
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Hi!

I bought it just for the fun to see Jeff and Michael. I have Lightroom, so I actually don't use Camera Raw (except for calibration). Lightroom and Camera Raw have a lot in common, so the tutorial is very informative anyway.

The discussion with the Lightroom folks at Adobe was also quite fun and interesting.

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Any idea when we'll start hearing about the Camera Raw tutorial? 
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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2008, 02:28:47 PM »
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Well, Mr. Reichman, next tutorial we meet the Digital Dog with the ColorMunki?

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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2008, 02:39:27 PM »
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I have Lightroom, so I actually don't use Camera Raw (except for calibration). Lightroom and Camera Raw have a lot in common, so the tutorial is very informative anyway.

I'm in the same camp, I use Lightroom now instead of ACR but I think there's more than enough good info here since they share the same processing pipeline. Just about everything discussed can be found in Develop so Lightroom users should not dismiss the video just because its about ACR.
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2008, 05:52:50 PM »
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I figured that would surface from you (assuming that you actually purchased the video, that's good). You guys don't agree. And there's nothing in the video with respect to what Jeff is describing that dilutes what he shows for this level of audience. Do we really need to go down this rabbit hole of semantics AGAIN?
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Of course, I purchased the video (sales order number #31598) and do not appreciate any implication to the contrary. Jeff is a recognized expert in Camera Raw and I have learned much from his revision of  the ACR book and think the tutorial is excellent thus far and would recommend it to others.

Even though he knows quite a bit more about digital photography than I do, I can occasionally point out an error in logic or fact in areas that I have studied.

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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2008, 06:00:33 PM »
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Of course, I purchased the video (sales order number #31598) and do not appreciate any implication to the contrary.

Chill Bill. I wasn't implying anything other than its good you purchased the video, as did I. Its possible you got a clip or someone provided you the context you mention.
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« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2008, 06:05:03 PM »
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Can anyone comment on the material contained here relative to Jeff's book " Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS3"  ?

I found that book extremely informative and helpful.  Is there much duplication and / or new material?

Thanks
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« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2008, 07:44:52 PM »
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Is this because you went to Jeff's to do the taping? Not that anyone would diss Master Schewe's humble Chicago abode
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« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2008, 11:33:01 PM »
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Yeah,

I guess that is because it's filmed in Jeff Schewes editing area and he keeps it dark.

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« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2008, 08:11:48 AM »
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I guess that is because it's filmed in Jeff Schewes editing area and he keeps it dark.
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No diss on the Camera to Print video but I found some of the bkgnd distracting (cars moving about) and think the environment in Jeff's studio was a bit "cleaner" for my viewing experience.
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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2008, 10:10:22 AM »
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No diss on the Camera to Print video but I found some of the bkgnd distracting (cars moving about) and think the environment in Jeff's studio was a bit "cleaner" for my viewing experience.
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But a little under exposed?
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« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2008, 10:42:14 AM »
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But a little under exposed?
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The background? Perhaps. But the foreground stuff looks fine on my display.

I think the idea is to expose to the left for backgrounds <g>
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« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2008, 01:57:05 PM »
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Hi,

I would just mention that "Real World Camera raw with Adobe Photoshop CS3" by Bruce Fraser and Jeff Schewe is a good read. Recommended.

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I'm in the same camp, I use Lightroom now instead of ACR but I think there's more than enough good info here since they share the same processing pipeline. Just about everything discussed can be found in Develop so Lightroom users should not dismiss the video just because its about ACR.
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« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2008, 02:36:37 PM »
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Can anyone comment on the material contained here relative to Jeff's book " Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS3"  ?

I found that book extremely informative and helpful.  Is there much duplication and / or new material?

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An excellent question that would merit a reply. Anyone read & viewed both?
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« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2008, 02:57:13 PM »
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An excellent question that would merit a reply. Anyone read & viewed both?
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I'm staying awake while watching the tutorial.  I keep the book around for those days I have caffeine late.
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« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2008, 03:01:24 PM »
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Ok, first things first. Have just finished watching the first three tutorials and, as expected, I wasn't disappointed - they were first class as usual so well done to both Michael and Jeff without forgetting all the backroom help of course. :-)

It's too late for this series of tutorials but could you perhaps note this request for the future? As I don't use my PC for silly games I have no need for additional plug-in type loud speakers and rely on the monitors in-built speakers. Using the OSD controls I have the volume set to 60% and for the odd few times where the output isn't sufficient I use the taskbar Realtek HD Audio Manager to up the volume a bit. Up until now the combination of these two has always sufficed and as with any speaker control I don't particuarly like setting the volume to 100% as this introduces noise. I have found that with both your latest series of tutorials i.e. Camera Raw and From Camera to Print I need to really jack up the volume and I wonder if in future you could kindly increase the recording volume a little bit. This will probably necessitate me reducing the speaker volume I know, but rather decrease it than increase it I say. Of course if I am the only one suffering from this problem then just take this post with a pinch of salt. :-(

As reference was made to Jeffs book - Camera Raw can I just add that I am almost half way through it and am finding it both extremely interesting as well as informative. My only critisism is in the style of writing used - subjective I know but I am finding forever changing from the first to the third person rather distracting. Perhaps this is as a result of him picking up the thread so to speak, I don't know, and of course only Jeff can answer that one.
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