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« on: March 06, 2008, 02:47:23 AM »
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Most recent talk about software were Photomatix for HDR photography, looks like most photographer acquire this software for their HDR process. But one downside is they can't deal with the ghosting like the moving object of moving people. read the PopPhoto.com they recommended the FDRTool it can solve the ghosting effect.

I don’t know who can share with their experience actual they’re using some of this software.

Many thanks.

Paul

PS: Just found out the Dynamic photo HDR only for window base PC, not for Mac unless I install the Boot Camp that may not my cup of tea.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 03:09:34 AM »
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Personally I didn't like it, while it did a good enough job of the HDR I just didn't find the interface very "user friendly" it gave the impression of being thrown together, rather than a professional product.
I much prefere Photomatix, or Dynamic photo HDR, they suit "my" style of working better.  Best bet is give it a try and see if it works for you, I think a lot depends on how you have shot the original images, and how much time your prepared to spend on the HDR process.  Wayne
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 04:31:07 AM »
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Most recent talk about software were Photomatix for HDR photography, [...] But one downside is they can't deal with the ghosting like the moving object of moving people. read the PopPhoto.com they recommended the FDRTool it can solve the ghosting effect.
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I too discovered that even with the beta3.0 version of Photomatix (supposed to handle that problem better), it just can't deal with handheld bracketed exposures.

I had much better results with the "Auto-Align layer" feature of CS3 : you stack the shots, tell CS3 to align them so, crop the white borders and do the usual work of [a href=\"http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/digital-blending.shtml]blending with masks[/url].
It won't produce "true" 32-bit HDR but for us photographers, the result is, more or less, the same (or at least of the same kind) - the final goal is to print an image, isn't it?

If you know another HDR tool that deals well with misaligned bracketed shots, I'm interested!
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 08:22:14 AM »
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I too discovered that even with the beta3.0 version of Photomatix (supposed to handle that problem better), it just can't deal with handheld bracketed exposures.

I had much better results with the "Auto-Align layer" feature of CS3 : you stack the shots, tell CS3 to align them so, crop the white borders and do the usual work of blending with masks.
It won't produce "true" 32-bit HDR but for us photographers, the result is, more or less, the same (or at least of the same kind) - the final goal is to print an image, isn't it?

If you know another HDR tool that deals well with misaligned bracketed shots, I'm interested!
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It seems to me that you have all the tools you need right in front of you, don't you?...

If you can use PS CS3 auto-align to align your layers, what prevents you from saving those layers as images, and from using Photomatix from then on?

I use these kind of workflows regularly for various creative applications. It seems so obvious that I probably didn't understand correctly what you are trying to do. Sorry if it is the case.

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Bernard
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 09:26:29 AM »
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Picturenaut is another HDR application from Christian Bloch, author of the "The HDRI Handbook": http://www.hdrlabs.com/picturenaut/index.html

Forgot it: Picturenaut is released as Freeware.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 09:35:35 AM »
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How about this?   http://lightroom-news.com/2008/03/03/enfuse-for-lightroom/
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 09:40:14 AM »
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If you can use PS CS3 auto-align to align your layers, what prevents you from saving those layers as images, and from using Photomatix from then on?
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Simple, mais il fallait y penser. Thanks!

Anyway, I'm glad so far with my CS3-only workflow... Generally, the images I blend are quite dichotomic (one shadow part and one highlight part) and rather well fitted for a simple-or-supposed-so masking approach.
Up to now, I didn't play very much on the so-called "Flickr HDR"    , or Uwe Steinmueller's "Grunge" side of HDR - but I don't say that I shouldn't,  and I'll try to use your suggestion to dig a bit deeper into Photomatix.

Timothy Armes has announced that he was planning to add auto-align to his [a href=\"http://timothyarmes.com/lrenfuse.php]LR/Enfuse plugin[/url] and that could also suit me well.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 10:24:22 AM »
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How about this?   http://lightroom-news.com/2008/03/03/enfuse-for-lightroom/
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I really like this product. Now it's not strictly HDR (but the results work really well). It doesn't do alignment but you can do this within Photoshop.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2008, 11:49:58 PM »
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I did yesterday a 6 exposure of the sunrise here, but inbetween shots the clouds moved enough to cause a ghosting effect, what do you guys do to avid this effect. I used CS3!

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 01:41:11 PM »
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I did yesterday a 6 exposure of the sunrise here, but inbetween shots the clouds moved enough to cause a ghosting effect, what do you guys do to avid this effect. I used CS3!

thanks

Henrik
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You may want to visit www.outbackphoto.com and read about a technique that is utilized in their usage of HDR. It is called High Speed bracketing and it sounds interesting to try(and it's free). Utilizing in camera bracketing at high shutter speeds.

[a href=\"http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_2007_01/section_hdr_and_tonemapping/20071223_HighSpeedBracketingReport/index.html]http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_2007_0...port/index.html[/url]

There is alot of HDR info on the site and I just pointed to one artical that may be an answer to ghosting. Given that the newer cameras these days are dealing with noise at higher ISO's faster shutter speeds with small apartures may becoming more useful. This does seem to be a viable answer or a least an approch to an answer of ghosting during hand held shots that were destined for the HDR process.
Of course, long exposures, even bracketed using the technique from the artical, will still show move some movement and if you can stop that, well everyone would be beating a path to your door
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2008, 07:26:21 PM »
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sweet plugin, thanks for the tip.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 09:42:50 AM »
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I really like this product. Now it's not strictly HDR (but the results work really well). It doesn't do alignment but you can do this within Photoshop.
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actually v2 does alignment, but based on only a few tries, not quite as good as PS's align.  Photomatix has a new beta that does a better align job as well.

enfuse gives a nice natural HDR, but requires some additional processing, only problem is that it's slow as molasses.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2008, 01:35:09 PM »
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I think Enfuse is better that regular HDR.  Far more natural.

If you have a MAC and want to use enfuse get Bracketeer:

http://www.pangeasoft.net/pano/bracketeer/index.html

Great GUI for Enfuse for $30... has auto align also
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