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« on: April 26, 2008, 11:50:40 AM »
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http://lightroom-news.com/2008/04/25/mark-...g-leaves-adobe/

My initial reaction was, "Uh Oh."

I hope his belief that LR should not turn into PS doesn't vanish with him...
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2008, 11:51:51 AM »
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http://lightroom-news.com/2008/04/25/mark-...g-leaves-adobe/

My initial reaction was, "Uh Oh."

I hope his belief that LR should not turn into PS doesn't vanish with him...
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Yes, surprising news, at least from the outside.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2008, 07:11:03 PM »
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People may change jobs and employers for a variety of reasons. My suggestion therefore is not to read more into it than may be there.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2008, 09:59:44 PM »
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People may change jobs and employers for a variety of reasons. My suggestion therefore is not to read more into it than may be there.

Yes, if you read the article it says he is going to work in a completely different field (not digital imaging).  Sometimes you just need a change.

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 05:31:42 AM »
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Seems odd to leave just as a new product is in beta stage, still you may be right..sometimes you get bored, need to do new things.

Microsoft? Well maybe they opened up a big cheque book for him! They certainly have it!
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 09:11:24 AM »
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Seems odd to leave just as a new product is in beta stage, still you may be right..sometimes you get bored, need to do new things.

Microsoft? Well maybe they opened up a big cheque book for him! They certainly have it!
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Well, rumor has it (as far as rumors go   ) that he will be involved in some kind of user experience.  Maybe the interface of the next windows OS, since Vista was not the success as once hoped for.  That being the case, it's more than money, it's a challenge thats suited for Mark.  Seventeen years was long enough.

It's fun to gossip and speculate, but only Mark and the recruiters at MS know the real deal.  If they care to make an annoucement.  Otherwise, we should wish the best for him and be thankful for the hard he's done to make our jobs easier.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2008, 12:23:38 PM »
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Seems odd to leave just as a new product is in beta stage...
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Not at all...

The "betaness" of Lightroom 2.0 is merely the public beta which was locked down mid-March. Since then, internal testers have much later builds that are a lot more finished and the parts that Mark was involved with codewise are pretty much done (except for bugs–some of which Mark was working on literally just before going to his going away party).

This was a golden opportunity for Mark and the timing, from MSFT & Adobe's point of view was fine. Truth be told, Adobe was sad to see him leave–just as they are sad to see anybody who's been there a really long time and accomplished a lot–but there are plenty of talented people to carry on the work. The primary work Mark did (with code) was the develop pipeline and working with Thomas Knoll and Zalman Stern and new hire Eric Chan (who hangs around here as well). Thomas and Z are perfectly capable (and in fact did much of the code anyways).

Mark's vision is what produced Lightroom. He had worked on it since early 2003...five years. He got it launched as a beta series and then a final shipping product and now is leaving at near 2.0 release. Now WAS the time to leave. His vision is already in play and the direction of Lightroom has already been set.

Where's he's going, he'll be working on something entirely new–User Experience–and he won't necessarily even be writing code (Mark doesn't do Windows all that well, he's quite the Mac bigot), he'll be designing the environment of future OS's. Something that will be incredibly challenging and difficult–which is EXACTLY what he was looking for at this stage in his career.

There really wasn't much opportunity for Mark left at Adobe other than pure research. He had been in the ATG (Advanced Technology Group–where he developed what would become Lightroom) where some really smart guys at Adobe end up when there's no particular product they want to work on. But he wants to do cool stuff on shipping products, not just pure research.

He was done with Photoshop...he was done with Lightroom and he wanted something completely different. And where' he's going, it will be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT now because Mark is on the team...we who know him all wonder if MSFT really knows what they are getting :~)
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 05:24:16 AM »
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it will be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT now because Mark is on the team...we who know him all wonder if MSFT really knows what they are getting :~)
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Hawaiin shirts?

Kidding aside, I'm sure he'll shine in MS as well.  Talented people do well in practically any environment.

Thanks for the inside view Jeff!
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 12:39:00 PM »
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Jeff:

Thanks for the insight,

Mark has given us many tools in the Adobe world and would like to thank him for that and wish him well in his new job.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 02:05:33 PM »
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Thanks for the inside view Jeff!
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Then you might want to see this...[a href=\"http://photoshopnews.com/2008/04/28/mark-hamburgs-going-away-party/]Mark Hamburg's Going Away Party[/url]

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