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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2008, 08:40:08 AM »
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Niko, you didn't know it existed at all, or existed outside Greek?   

FWIW with my kids (13, 12 and 9) I make a point of giving them the Greek roots angle whenever I can.  And the 12-year-old loves the odd contemporary phrase, e.g etsi ketsi
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I didn't know it existed at all. I could have imagined it existed but I would have used αλλόγλωσσος instead (alloglot??). The one you used sounds more proper though.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2008, 08:52:44 AM »
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Has no-one mentioned Michael?  
He's the essence of LL, which subsequently informs the discusion board. I like the way Michael talks about the practicalities of using equipment and not simply rewording/expanding spec sheets, when it comes to reviewing kit. This eliminates a lot of the gadget freaks.
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 08:57:48 AM »
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I didn't know it existed at all. I could have imagined it existed but I would have used αλλόγλωσσος instead (alloglot??). The one you used sounds more proper though.
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Actually you got me wondering and I checked and found out that it's actually a phonetics term meaning a variant of the same phoneme.  The way I used it, to mean "other language speaker" comes from Canada.   I can't remember where I first heard it.
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 09:10:19 AM »
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Actually you got me wondering and I checked and found out that it's actually a phonetics term meaning a variant of the same phoneme.  The way I used it, to mean "other language speaker" comes from Canada.   I can't remember where I first heard it.
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In Modern Greek both words mean what you wanted to convey. The one you used seems to be more archaic. The linguistics term is probably just a modern 'technical' use of the word as a noun.

So one more good thing about this site is that you can have a civilised discussion on philological issues
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2008, 09:25:02 AM »
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As I suspected, the Canadian usage comes from the French one which in this case seems closer to the original greek meaning.

'personne dont la langue maternelle est une langue étrangère à la communauté où elle se trouve.'
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2008, 09:35:36 AM »
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I enjoy LL for all the reasons stated by others.

I just stopped in today for the first time in over a week, and was surprised by a couple of threads that became a LX2 vs G9 hissy fit. It was kind of a shock to me, because it was very non-LL, rather it was like a wormhole had opened into a DPreview forum.
I hope this does not continue, and am glad for the moderation.
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2008, 11:05:36 AM »
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So one more good thing about this site is that you can have a civilised discussion on philological issues
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Not always! Language debates tend to really wind up those who think contemporary usage is an abhorrent corruption of the 'beautiful' language that was spoken so much better in the good old days[normally of their youth]. Which was simply a corruption of the previous good old days.  
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2008, 11:15:02 AM »
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Actually you got me wondering and I checked and found out that it's actually a phonetics term meaning a variant of the same phoneme.  The way I used it, to mean "other language speaker" comes from Canada. 
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More precisely
Allophone [Canadian] - A person whose native language is other than French or English.
Not come across that very Canadian meaning before. I assumed it was the other and was a bit confused.
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2008, 12:58:22 PM »
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Not always! Language debates tend to really wind up those who think contemporary usage is an abhorrent corruption of the 'beautiful' language that was spoken so much better in the good old days[normally of their youth]. Which was simply a corruption of the previous good old days.  
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Well said. This discussion between 'philologues' and 'linguists' takes place in every society. Still one can have a civilised disagreement.
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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2008, 10:25:14 AM »
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Well said. This discussion between 'philologues' and 'linguists' takes place in every society. Still one can have a civilised disagreement.
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Is that like a polite war?  
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2008, 10:19:14 AM »
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Has no-one mentioned Michael?   
He's the essence of LL, which subsequently informs the discusion board. I like the way Michael talks about the practicalities of using equipment and not simply rewording/expanding spec sheets, when it comes to reviewing kit. This eliminates a lot of the gadget freaks.
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You bet!

Michael didn't even know (before) he had groupies!

 
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