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« on: May 14, 2008, 12:01:34 PM »
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I'm thinking about a used rz67II, it's really cheap here in secondhand market, but I don't know what's the difference between II and II D, except that D version has electronic contact with DB.

Does anyone have used both II & IID? if the difference is not big, I'll neglect IID since it's hard to find in secondhand market and/so  it's much more expensive. A used II is about 800$ but a used IID is at least 2000$(in China)

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 12:19:29 PM »
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You have it exactly correct.  With a Phase back on the ProII it requires a totally different adapter and  two cables to connect. The IID has an electronic connection via the adapter and does not need  cables.

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I'm thinking about a used rz67II, it's really cheap here in secondhand market, but I don't know what's the difference between II and II D, except that D version has electronic contact with DB.

Does anyone have used both II & IID? if the difference is not big, I'll neglect IID since it's hard to find in secondhand market and/so  it's much more expensive. A used II is about 800$ but a used IID is at least 2000$(in China)

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 12:21:59 PM »
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Thank you Chris, but anything else?

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You have it exactly correct.  With a Phase back on the ProII it requires a totally different adapter and  two cables to connect. The IID has an electronic connection via the adapter and does not cables.

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 04:53:30 PM »
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I think that's the only difference.  

I have to say, there was an "EX" condition IID at KEH.com for around $900, and a Like New IID for $1300 I think, a few months ago.

"A used II is about 800$ but a used IID is at least 2000$(in China)"

Wow.  Prices are that high in China?
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 05:39:46 PM »
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The D, if used with Mamiya's HX700 adapter (and with the back set to "AFD") doesn't require a sync cable and cannot overshoot the back

You can use the D with a mechanical adapter (from Leaf, ECO etc.) and it'll then function like a non-D, meaning it'll require a sync cable and will allow to overshoot the back.

Optically and mechanically there is no difference between the D and the non-D.

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 10:03:01 PM »
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The D, if used with Mamiya's HX700 adapter (and with the back set to "AFD") doesn't require a sync cable and cannot overshoot the back

You can use the D with a mechanical adapter (from Leaf, ECO etc.) and it'll then function like a non-D, meaning it'll require a sync cable and will allow to overshoot the back.

Optically and mechanically there is no difference between the D and the non-D.

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Yair,
Please clear it for me if the D will work without cable with Aptus 75S in Hassy H mount using HX700( available?).
We went through this about a year ago but maybe something has change.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 10:19:20 PM »
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Andre, I believe the Mamiya adapter was made for the RZIID to work with the ZD back electronically, which of course, has a Mamiya 645AFD mount, so a Hassy H mount back won't work on this adapter.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 11:40:08 PM »
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yep because it's rare.

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I think that's the only difference. 

I have to say, there was an "EX" condition IID at KEH.com for around $900, and a Like New IID for $1300 I think, a few months ago.

"A used II is about 800$ but a used IID is at least 2000$(in China)"

Wow.  Prices are that high in China?
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 11:40:56 PM »
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Thanks guys~ I think a II is ok for me.
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You have it exactly correct.  With a Phase back on the ProII it requires a totally different adapter and  two cables to connect. The IID has an electronic connection via the adapter and does not need  cables.

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I have two of the original RZ bodies. Could you please provide some info re compatibility with phase backs:

1. What is the cost of the adapter & cables for the original RZ vs adapter for the RZ11D.

2. Can the rotating back function be used with both cameras.

3. Will the original RZ prism fit the Pro11D.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 12:14:52 PM »
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I have two of the original RZ bodies. Could you please provide some info re compatibility with phase backs:

1. What is the cost of the adapter & cables for the original RZ vs adapter for the RZ11D.

2. Can the rotating back function be used with both cameras.

3. Will the original RZ prism fit the Pro11D.

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Harold,

1.  The RZ/RZ Pro II adapter plate lists for $1990.00 and the RZ Pro IID lists for $1250.00.

2.  The plate can rotate on the RZ Pro IID adapter, but not the RZ/RZ Pro II.

3.  The original waist level and prism finder will fit the Pro IID.

Below is a pic of both adapter plates.  Sorry for the resolution.. it's my point n' shoot and not a Phase.

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 12:34:50 PM »
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Yair,
Please clear it for me if the D will work without cable with Aptus 75S in Hassy H mount using HX700( available?).
We went through this about a year ago but maybe something has change.
Thanks
Andre
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T-1000 is right, Andre. Your H back can only work on the RZ (D or not) via the Leaf or ECO adapters, both mechanical and require a sync cable.

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I have two of the original RZ bodies. Could you please provide some info re compatibility with phase backs:

I know a few people who use Phase H backs with a Leaf RZ adapter. We make 4 different RZ adapters (H, V, M and AFi) and they all rotate on both D and non-D models.

They are all mechanical so you'll have to use the KG or P1 Y-sync/ wake-up cables

Yair
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 03:08:57 PM »
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Harold,

1.  The RZ/RZ Pro II adapter plate lists for $1990.00 and the RZ Pro IID lists for $1250.00.

2.  The plate can rotate on the RZ Pro IID adapter, but not the RZ/RZ Pro II.

3.  The original waist level and prism finder will fit the Pro IID.

Below is a pic of both adapter plates.  Sorry for the resolution.. it's my point n' shoot and not a Phase.

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Thanks for the info, that explains it very well.
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