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« on: June 06, 2008, 05:33:51 PM »
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I'm looking into buying Integrated Color's Color Eyes 20-20 camera profiling kit. Has anyone used this or is there a review online that someone has done?
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 05:46:07 PM »
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It is regarded as one of the best profiling software packages on the market.  It will work with a number of different pucks and Vista or Leopard.  very precise... not the cheapest... but possibly the best. I think it was reviewed on this site.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 11:14:39 PM »
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I'm looking into buying Integrated Color's Color Eyes 20-20 camera profiling kit. Has anyone used this or is there a review online that someone has done?
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I've used Integrated's Color Eyes monitor calibration software and it's very good. These guys know their stuff. I almost purchased their camera profile kit, but instead went with Xrite because I got a great deal on the SG package. If you are shooting color critical work, you will be amazed at how much more accurate color is from a camera that's been profiled. I shoot a lot of fine art and am amazed at how much easier it is to match color now.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 06:43:45 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 11:53:11 AM »
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What Raw converter you using? Its possible, assuming you're using say Aperture, Lightroom or ACR it will do absolutely nothing for you as there's no need to, or ability to use custom ICC profiles for a camera.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 11:54:56 AM »
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If you are shooting color critical work, you will be amazed at how much more accurate color is from a camera that's been profiled. I shoot a lot of fine art and am amazed at how much easier it is to match color now.
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Accurate? Not unless you're referring to scene referred data. Output referred data by its very definition isn't accurate although it IS pleasing!

Accurate color is a marketing buzzword.

Even the ICC had to post a white paper to define the differences:
[a href=\"http://www.color.org/ICC_white_paper_20_Digital_photography_color_management_basics.pdf]http://www.color.org/ICC_white_paper_20_Di...ment_basics.pdf[/url]
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 01:47:20 PM »
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Accurate? Not unless you're referring to output referred data. Scene referred data by its very definition isn't accurate although it IS pleasing!

Accurate color is a marketing buzzword.

Even the ICC had to post a white paper to define the differences:
http://www.color.org/ICC_white_paper_20_Di...ment_basics.pdf
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Not trying to launch into a semantics battle here. I meant "accurate" in terms of final output, i.e. a client compares the repro to the original and says, "Gee, that looks just like the original."
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 04:10:21 PM »
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I guess that's called reality referred.

I don't know. That's the best semantic I could come up with.

What is the technical ICC term for Bob's point?

Very informative video discussion on that linked LL tutorial BTW.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 05:16:19 PM »
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I guess that's called reality referred.

Its called output referred.

Accurate is something you can't measure with a rubber ruler. If you could measure the scene colors, then you'd have some basis for defining accuracy. That's scene referred colorimetry. The ICC white paper defines the distinctions.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 11:12:00 AM »
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I recently purchased ColorEyes 20/20 directly from Integrated Color for a project we did for Crate & Barrel.  It is excellent software and worth every penny.  I no longer have a need for it, however , and would be willing to sell it to you for a great price.  Let me know if you are interested.  You can reach me directly at my studio at (630) 461-4525 or by emailing me at adam@osiobrown.com


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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 11:25:07 AM »
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What Raw converter you using?
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Capture One Pro with a Canon 1Ds3. I've had tremendous success using [a href=\"http://www.etcetera.cc]profiles from etcetera[/url] and am looking for even greater accuracy in the "profiled camera" workflow. I also like the ease of tethered photography with Capture One, but am now at a crossroads without that feature.

Although I'm not opposed to trying the "Adobe way" and processing files into the Pro Photo or Adobe '98 color space.
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