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« on: June 19, 2008, 10:01:44 AM »
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Now that is seems my Artisan, needs a repair, should I repair it, or get a new monitor?

I have the Sony Artisan and a cheap NEC 19" for palettes etc.
I'm thinking of the 30" Dell or Sony.

I've read about the Eizo, but is it really necessary to spend so much thanks.

If I bail on Artisan I will miss the self calibrating.
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 11:43:44 AM »
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I think there are a number of folks (including me) satisfied with the NEC 2690 + spectraview....
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 01:02:47 PM »
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Another enthusiastic vote for the NEC 2690 with SpectraView.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 02:08:21 PM »
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What are others thoughts on the Mac 23" display?  or the Eizo 24"

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 03:03:35 PM »
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What are others thoughts on the Mac 23" display?  or the Eizo 24"

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I have a NEC 2690 WUXi and a SpectraView and the Colorometer with it.The NEC Colormeter is really a Gretag Eye one display2 but it is supposed to be tricked out for the wide gamut of the NEC monitor.The colorometer sez on it Gammacomp MD
.It also will read ambient light .I also have the NEC hood on the monitor.
All works very well and lot's cheaper than an Eizo.I had a Apple 23 in cinema display.The Nec is bigger and way brighter, I had to turn it almost all the way down to get it to calibrate and it's still almost to bright.I would recomend the NEC with spectraview 2 and the colorometer.It's a sweet rig and you will save a lot o $$,
compared to Eizo.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 08:12:25 PM »
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Thanks guys, my ARtisan, suddenly came back to life so I may stick with it. It was flickering and popping this morning and everything was blurry, but now it's ok.

But want to ask: what was that all about?

Now to the NEC: is it as good as an Eizo?  Does it feel as expansive as the 30" monitors?
Does it self calibrate? thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 10:48:03 PM »
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Now to the NEC: is it as good as an Eizo?  Does it feel as expansive as the 30" monitors?
Does it self calibrate? thanks.
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I like my 2690 very much.

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There are quite a number of posts about the 2690. You may want to read them.  NEC just introduced a 30 inch version the 3090. I am not sure what you mean by self calibrate. It comes with everything you need to calibrate it and it is very easy to do so.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 10:10:03 AM »
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The 30" HP is a good deal at ~$1300 and they just came out with the 24" DreamColor which has an ultra-wide gamut that blows anything in its price range away (tri-color LED backlight, 30bit, 1,000,000,000 colors).  It basically competes against $12,000-$16,000 monitors.

Dreamcolor
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/en/WF...67-3648397.html

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http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/en/WF...67-3297215.html
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 11:26:01 AM »
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Self calibrate, I mean with ARtisan, you just put the puck up and walk away and come back and it's done.

Curious, how does the NEC compare in quality to Eizo/Artisan.
I have a G5: I would also need to buy a new video card?

Does anyone know what all that flickering/popping I was getting on my Artison Monitor was?? It seems to have settled down now.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 11:59:50 AM »
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Self calibrate, I mean with ARtisan, you just put the puck up and walk away and come back and it's done.
With the NEC, you have to mount the puck, click Calibrate, and then walk away and come back and it's done.  ;-)


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Does anyone know what all that flickering/popping I was getting on my Artison Monitor was?? It seems to have settled down now.
Sounds like a harbinger of imminent death.  :-(

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 04:58:56 PM »
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Thanks sounds great Neil, is the NEC the first monitor since the Artisan you don't have to sit there and jump through hoops.

Now my monitor is working fine. does anyone really know what those flickers and pops & blurry screen were? It A-OK now. I've had it four years.

BTW, any Artisan folks can tell me where you would repair an Artisan and how much it would cost? thanks
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 05:00:11 PM »
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still Curious,  to Artisan folks, how does the NEC compare in quality to Eizo/Artisan.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 09:41:48 PM »
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Intermittant flickers & pops mean it's probably an electrical problem, and it's unlikely to get all better on its own (though it may come and go).  I had a CRT do that for a few months too, before it completely died.  I don't know how easy it would be to fix...

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2008, 12:25:27 PM »
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The electival problem is coming from inside the monitor or possible outside?
It has not reappeared yet.
Can't anything be fixed at the shop?
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2008, 05:13:42 PM »
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The electival problem is coming from inside the monitor or possible outside?
It has not reappeared yet.
Can't anything be fixed at the shop?

The sort of electrical problem I'm talking about is something inside the monitor intermitantly shorting out (or suffering some similar problem).  It may be possible to fix; I didn't try it when my monitor had that problem, as it was about time for a new monitor for me anyway.  You'd have to ask someone who has monitor-repair experience.

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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 12:54:21 PM »
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still Curious,  to Artisan folks, how does the NEC compare in quality to Eizo/Artisan.
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I'm an Artisan user (well not as much anymore). Very, very happy with the NEC SpectraView. Have both the 2690 and newer 3090.

Note, the bit above about a tricked out EyeOne Display is incorrect. Only the unit that ships with the LED (2180) applies, all others are the same device as the X-Rite unit.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 02:50:01 PM »
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I'm an Artisan user (well not as much anymore). Very, very happy with the NEC SpectraView. Have both the 2690 and newer 3090.

Note, the bit above about a tricked out EyeOne Display is incorrect. Only the unit that ships with the LED (2180) applies, all others are the same device as the X-Rite unit.
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Thanks for the info Rodney.So I bought ANOTHER eye one and the one that came with HP APS was the same as the one that I bought with the NEC? I guess if I plug in the NEC colorometer with HP APS I would find out? THE HARD WAY !
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 04:48:32 PM »
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So I bought ANOTHER eye one and the one that came with HP APS was the same as the one that I bought with the NEC?

Yup. At least as long as both where EyeOne Display-2's.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2008, 11:08:42 PM »
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Andrew:

The NEC is as good as the Artisan?

The puck stuff is over my head, basically it comes with a calibrator that is similar to the Artisan in that you can walk away and come back and it's calibrated, right?

No reason to read about Eizo anymore, NEC is state of the art?

That said, I'm still sticking with my Artisan until it catches on fire, becuase the longer I hold onto it, the cheaper and better the NEC's will become.

Lastly, my monitor is perfect for last three days, but what was all that popping, flickering, and blurry monitor stuff about? (only lasted a few hours) -- I"ve had it four years now.

thanks!
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 07:59:17 AM »
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Andrew:
The NEC is as good as the Artisan?

That's a bit like asking, is a 50mm 1.2 as good as an 85mm 1.2. They are different. There are things one can do, the other can't. The fact that the Artisan is an old technology, small by today's standards, hot, dim etc when the NEC is the opposite but still can't produce the uniformity or purity over the entire display like the Artisan, or still can't control Black independent of white just shows we have differing technology at our disposals. For a CCFL LED, I'm pretty darn happy with the NEC compared to any other unit I've had the chance to play with. I love the software interaction (making this a smart monitor like the Artisan).

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The puck stuff is over my head, basically it comes with a calibrator that is similar to the Artisan in that you can walk away and come back and it's calibrated, right?

Correct. And like the Artisan, you can have differing targets that switch on the fly in the software, update the display and switch out the ICC profile.

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No reason to read about Eizo anymore, NEC is state of the art?

UNTILL Eizo seeds units to the right people like Karl Lang and shows why they deserve a huge premium, I'd say go NEC.
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