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« Reply #180 on: April 10, 2009, 11:17:07 AM »
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even if the tripoid mount would be under the lens  
it still would not be the nodal point because the lenses have different lenghts ....  

i dont like this idea, but that are just my 5%.

IF the tripod mount would be under the lens
then a 100mm or so Arca plate easily positions around nodal point.
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« Reply #181 on: April 10, 2009, 11:54:11 AM »
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IF the tripod mount would be under the lens
then a 100mm or so Arca plate easily positions around nodal point.
for the good balance of the artec one can work with very lightweight tripods if necessary, although i usually dont do that, i had situations where i was happy that the camera allows it ( i used successfull the smallest gitzo karbon ....! ) .

if the tripod mount is under the right side ( under the lens board ) this will change a lot.
on the other hand i never had any problems with stitched images,- with closeup distances that might be different but thats not what for the artec is planned originally ,- so for this specific uses  i really would recommend an additional tripod pano mount as mamiya offers.
i never saw any problem with stiched roundshots ( a infinity ) or stitched 28/23mm images.
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« Reply #182 on: April 10, 2009, 12:10:14 PM »
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where can i buy this kit?


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Dear John,

There is a promotion bundle, the "Sinar arTec-e54r", with the eMotion 54 LV and with revolving adapter, at a recommended price of Euro 15'549,-

Best regards,
Thierry
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« Reply #183 on: April 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM »
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where can i buy this kit?

Where are you located?
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« Reply #184 on: April 10, 2009, 12:15:04 PM »
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manhattan

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Where are you located?
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« Reply #185 on: April 10, 2009, 12:24:22 PM »
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Sinarbron lists the following dealers, but I have no idea whether they stock that particular item. Anyway, a good place to start with a few phone calls:

FOTO CARE
136 W. 21ST ST.
NEW YORK, NY 10011
(212) 741-2990
(212) 741-3217 (FAX)
info@fotocare.com
www.fotocare.com         

CALUMET PHOTOGRAPHIC
16 W. 19TH ST.
NEW YORK, NY 10011
(212) 989-8500
(212) 627-9088 (FAX) www.calumetphoto.com

B&H PHOTO
420 9TH AVE.
NEW YORK, NY 10001
(212) 444-6615
(212) 239-7770 (FAX) www.bhphotovideo.com         

K&M CAMERA
385 Broadway
New York, NY
917-860-4137
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« Reply #186 on: April 10, 2009, 02:44:33 PM »
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thanks, fotocare carries it.  they really do care.

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Sinarbron lists the following dealers, but I have no idea whether they stock that particular item. Anyway, a good place to start with a few phone calls:

FOTO CARE
136 W. 21ST ST.
NEW YORK, NY 10011
(212) 741-2990
(212) 741-3217 (FAX)
info@fotocare.com
www.fotocare.com         

CALUMET PHOTOGRAPHIC
16 W. 19TH ST.
NEW YORK, NY 10011
(212) 989-8500
(212) 627-9088 (FAX) www.calumetphoto.com

B&H PHOTO
420 9TH AVE.
NEW YORK, NY 10001
(212) 444-6615
(212) 239-7770 (FAX) www.bhphotovideo.com         

K&M CAMERA
385 Broadway
New York, NY
917-860-4137
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« Reply #187 on: April 11, 2009, 08:04:30 PM »
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CONSIDERING the tripod mount NOT being centered below the lens, and the fact that some peoples wants to use a light tripod head, and others wants to turn around the nodal point...
i would have put two tripod mounts !


So now we have choices...
ALPA XY
ALPA MAX
ARCA RM3D
ARCA RL3D
ARCA M line TWO (probably the most cost effective... no special mounts )
CAMBO RS1000
LINHOF Techno
SILVESTRI BICAM
SILVESTRI Flexicam
SINAR arTec
plus the Hasselblad HTS stuff..
and in some ways FULL frame DSLR and the TS-E PC-E lenses

So many expensive cameras for such a small market !
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« Reply #188 on: May 15, 2009, 03:06:09 AM »
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I have a question for Rainer and other ARtec useres:
I wonder how good the Artec works regarding tollerances and reliability of the movements etc.
I had one in my hand once but could not take any images with it.
While the Alpa SWA is maybe prettier I still believe in the end the Artec offers more (more movements, and the posibility to check focus atc. on the groundgrass with the sliding adapter) and prices of the Artec have come down a bit as well.

Another question. How good you feel when using a groundglass in MF-size? Do you find it is bright enough and enough detail to focus accurate?
Its quite a bit smaller than those large format ground glasses. Is it as usefull?

The other question is which lens as a first lens. I plan to use it for landscape 70% and architecture and other stuff 30%, "all just for fun" (I am not a pro).
I tend to go 35mm first and maybe add in a year (if I win the lottery) a 23/24mm and one day 47mm.
However maybe 28 would be the better way to start? Any comments?

Regards, Tom
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« Reply #189 on: May 15, 2009, 03:55:02 AM »
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While the Alpa SWA is maybe prettier I still believe in the end the Artec offers more (more movements, and the posibility to check focus atc. on the groundgrass with the sliding adapter) and prices of the Artec have come down a bit as well.

for that, you should consider the Arca RM3D with the rotaslide !

you can also mount the RM3D on a rail for longer lenses... probably the most versatile system at the moment !

And above all, the most precise helical mount on the market.


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« Reply #190 on: May 15, 2009, 05:40:29 AM »
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Mounting a long Arca plate along/parallel to the camera body <-->
then atop this Novoflex focusing rack
I imagine would solve any nodal point issues.
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« Reply #191 on: May 15, 2009, 07:58:39 AM »
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for that, you should consider the Arca RM3D with the rotaslide !

you can also mount the RM3D on a rail for longer lenses... probably the most versatile system at the moment !

And above all, the most precise helical mount on the market.

Is this in production? Anyone got one?
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« Reply #192 on: May 15, 2009, 08:38:35 AM »
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Is this in production? Anyone got one?

Wow, there are a lot of comments on what *else* to buy, but no feedback on the arTec, as requested? Where is Rainer when you need him?
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« Reply #193 on: May 15, 2009, 09:11:09 AM »
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yes the RM3D does exist !

i've played with one, it will be my next camera !
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« Reply #194 on: May 15, 2009, 09:15:07 AM »
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Rainer is working, and quite busy for the next 2 months.

But let me tell his thoughts about the "nodal point" issue, if allowed: as long as you don´t shoot subjects closer to a few meters (4 - 5 meters) the nodal point not being in the rotation axes is not an issue and can be disregarded and has no influence on the image.

Rainer has said this already, including in this thread.

And yes, the arTec does offer more movement possibilities, in fact it offers ALL movements: H & V shifts, Tilt & Swing, Rotation, Sliding Adapter, etc ..., all in one camera.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Wow, there are a lot of comments on what *else* to buy, but no feedback on the arTec, as requested? Where is Rainer when you need him?
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« Reply #195 on: May 15, 2009, 09:16:19 AM »
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« Reply #196 on: May 15, 2009, 09:17:58 AM »
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Wow, there are a lot of comments on what *else* to buy, but no feedback on the arTec, as requested? Where is Rainer when you need him?

thats funny.

certainly you were following this tread with much interest....  
the following responses in this tread have been from me:

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« Reply #197 on: May 15, 2009, 09:20:00 AM »
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hi Rainer,

Hope you are doing well.

 

Cheers,
Thierry

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thats funny.

certainly you were following this tread with much interest....  
the following responses in this tread have been from me:

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« Reply #198 on: May 15, 2009, 09:56:50 AM »
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hi Rainer,

Hope you are doing well.

 

Cheers,
Thierry
hi thierry,
fine. how are you? still in bangkok or back in europe ?
maybe carstenw could read your responses and these of MFHA too if he finds the time  
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« Reply #199 on: May 15, 2009, 10:13:11 AM »
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hi Rainer,

still in BKK, but right now in Sing for 1 night, to re-new my Thai visa for the last month there. Then back to Switzerland by June 29th. So boring right now in my room and was thinking to answer for you.

 

Cheers,
Thierry

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hi thierry,
fine. how are you? still in bangkok or back in europe ?
maybe carstenw could read your responses and these of MFHA too if he finds the time  
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