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Bernd B.
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« on: July 03, 2008, 11:06:14 AM »
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I just got am email message from a local dealer here in Frankfurt.

H3DII/50 EUR 30,000,-

T/S-adapter for 28/35/50/80mm EUR 3.600,-

large-format adapter for H3D: EUR 1.600,-

plus tax.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 11:49:54 AM »
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A tilt/shift adapter for existing lenses is not possible whatsoever. There would be no infinity focusing. That's why Mamiya had short barrel lenses for use with the RZ tilt/shift adapter.

Seems bogus.
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The dealer is not known for telling bogus. I think itīs true, because itīs my local dealer here. And it was an email, not a personal chat. Every photographer in Frankfurt must have gotten it today.

I donīt care. My 39MP are enough. If I had a 22MP it would be enough as well.

Bernd
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 11:58:08 AM »
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A tilt/shift adapter for existing lenses is not possible whatsoever. There would be no infinity focusing. That's why Mamiya had short barrel lenses for use with the RZ tilt/shift adapter.

Seems bogus.
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Unless the tilt/shift adapter is a la FlexBody or ArcBody.
Just a guess on my part.  I am waiting to hear like everyone else.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 12:06:05 PM »
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I just got am email message from a local dealer here in Frankfurt.

H3DII/50 EUR 30,000,-
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Any more sources/info on this product?

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 12:09:38 PM »
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There will be a Hasselblad announcement early next week.

Looking forward to it.

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 12:15:08 PM »
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There will be a Hasselblad announcement early next week.

Looking forward to it.

Michael
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Interested too.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 12:19:37 PM »
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There will be a Hasselblad announcement early next week.

Looking forward to it.

Michael
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Let the games begin!  

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 12:41:31 PM »
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I trust my dealer. I think every bit of that is true. But I donīt have any additional information. The only thing I left out was a "cable kit for E-shuttle Schneider and Rodenstock", whatever that is, for EUR 450,- plus tax.

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 12:43:27 PM »
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There will be a Hasselblad announcement early next week.

Looking forward to it.

Michael
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Do you mean this in a positive way Michael, or did you forget the <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags? :-)

Just kidding. Its always interesting to hear about new (hopefully innovative) products.
I just hope they have the common sense not to exclude existing H3D camera's this time around.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 12:48:47 PM »
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My dealer now mentions this in the news section of his hp.

http://www.gmfoto.de/index.php?neues

(in German only)
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2008, 12:49:31 PM »
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I trust my dealer. I think every bit of that is true. But I donīt have any additional information. The only thing I left out was a "cable kit for E-shuttle Schneider and Rodenstock", whatever that is, for EUR 450,- plus tax.

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Could that be something related to the Schneider and Rodenstock electronic shutters that allow remote wired control of aperture and exposure time, among other things? Do H lenses have aperture and shutter speed settings on the lenses? If not, they would need to be controlled elctronically when on a T/S body or view camera.

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2008, 12:50:41 PM »
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Could that be something related to the Schneider and Rodenstock electronic shutters that allow remote wired control of aperture and exposure time, among other things?

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Makes sense.

Bernd
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2008, 01:25:05 PM »
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If it's true then it's just a case of ...and so the pixel peeping race goes on........ Yawn!

I believe that Canon are probably at, or near, the top of their game squeezing 21Mp onto a 35mm sized sensor. Hasselblad have some headroom to play with and good luck to them. But, as Bernd implies, who needs it?

T/S, on the other hand, would be very interesting.

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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2008, 01:34:34 PM »
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No sarcasm intended at all.

I'm a Hasselblad system owner and am always interested in any products that they bring to market. I just hope that these are things that I can use with my existing H1 and H2.

Even if they weren't I would still be interested and would report on them fairly. Remember, my beef isn't with the company or its products, just with some of its management's marketing policies.

Michael
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2008, 01:35:41 PM »
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If it's true then it's just a case of ...and so the pixel peeping race goes on........ Yawn!

I believe that Canon are probably at, or near, the top of their game squeezing 21Mp onto a 35mm sized sensor. Hasselblad have some headroom to play with and good luck to them. But, as Bernd implies, who needs it?

T/S, on the other hand, would be very interesting.

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I'm waiting for a terapixel sensor cause someone somewhere said that velvia has an infinite resolution.    

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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2008, 01:39:25 PM »
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T/S, on the other hand, would be very interesting.

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The only way a T/S adapter would work was with an additional lens, like the PC-Mutar 1,4 to increase the image circle. But that decreases image quality. You can read in all MF forums even without an adapter the MF-SLR-retro-focus-wideangles are not as good as the "digital" schneider and rodenstock wideangles.

So this new toy makes not much sense. For 3.600,- EUR plus tax you can buy half of a cambo/schneider lens combination.

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2008, 01:47:46 PM »
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The only way a T/S adapter would work was with an additional lens, like the PC-Mutar 1,4 to increase the image circle. But that decreases image quality. You can read in all MF forums even without an adapter the MF-SLR-retro-focus-wideangles are not as good as the "digital" schneider and rodenstock wideangles.

So this new toy makes not much sense. For 3.600,- EUR plus tax you can buy half of a cambo/schneider lens combination.

Bernd
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The "cable kit for e-shutter Rodenstock+Schneider: 450,- EUR" makes sense as Hasselblad had utilized a very slick cable system for Schneider lenses on the iXpress backs which eliminated the need for the Controller unit (similar to Eyelike). There is an adapter cable that has been available for some time that allows the CF digital backs to use the same cable setup.

I do know that a cable solution for the H3D series has been under development for some time but I am not aware whether it was an adapter cable or a whole new cabling solution. Based on the price I'm seeing, it appears to me it is a whole new cabling solution for the H3D series to interact with the Schneider Electronic Shutter without the Controller unit and also adds Rollei compatibilitty.

Just an educated guess.

There is indeed a US dealers conference call scheduled for next week, but at the rate we're going here, that just might be a summary for us....

C'mon people, dig!

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2008, 02:21:53 PM »
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No sarcasm intended at all.

I'm a Hasselblad system owner and am always interested in any products that they bring to market. I just hope that these are things that I can use with my existing H1 and H2.

Even if they weren't I would still be interested and would report on them fairly. Remember, my beef isn't with the company or its products, just with some of its management's marketing policies.

Michael
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At least their aggressive marketing and insane pixel obsession will get those over-inflated prices down! - (along with Canon and Nikon chomping at the heels of 31Mp!!) .......$9000 rebate on a H3DII 22Mp!!??

The pixel wars and the ever deepening credit crunch are conspiring to make the next year or so the best time ever for buy into a reasonable pixel count MFDB system, if you have the work or spare cash.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2008, 02:39:01 PM »
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Plus I seriously doubt any of the mentioned lenses possibly have the image circle for T/S.

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They do have the image circles needed, the adaptor will work with the 28, 35, 50 and 80mm lenses, +/-18mm shift, +/- 10 degrees tilt, +/- 90 degrees rotation.

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2008, 02:39:10 PM »
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I really hope they've done this by going to full 645 (which would bring it almost exactly to 50 million pixels) rather than by squeezing more into the 36.7mm x 49mm sensor.
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