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« Reply #180 on: September 09, 2008, 03:04:37 AM »
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Hmmm... is a base ISO of 200 going to work with the nice fast Schneider glass like the 110/2 or 80/2 or 180/2.8 all of which have max shutter speeds of 1/500.  Everything's a trade off I guess.
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that's the tradeoff off leaf shutter systems, always depens what you actually need.
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« Reply #181 on: September 09, 2008, 03:17:21 AM »
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Hmmm... is a base ISO of 200 going to work with the nice fast Schneider glass like the 110/2 or 80/2 or 180/2.8 all of which have max shutter speeds of 1/500.  Everything's a trade off I guess.
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True, I hope I'll always have an ISO 50 option.
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« Reply #182 on: September 09, 2008, 03:39:10 AM »
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True, I hope I'll always have an ISO 50 option.
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arent nd filters an option to consider ?
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« Reply #183 on: September 09, 2008, 04:10:22 AM »
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arent nd filters an option to consider ?
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Not for people photography with manual focus. I need all the viewfinder brightness I can get for fast and critical focusing. ND filters might also impair AF performance.
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« Reply #184 on: September 09, 2008, 04:44:05 AM »
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Not for people photography with manual focus. I need all the viewfinder brightness I can get for fast and critical focusing. ND filters might also impair AF performance.
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understood.
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« Reply #185 on: September 09, 2008, 11:25:47 AM »
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it looks like our measurements of the base ISO of this sensor is closer to 200 than 100 (given a certain working space and contrast curve).
The current data is given as a "conservative" value, and possibly it will have ISO 100 as a setting as well.

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is the iso base setting really 200? or is that a typo?
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« Reply #186 on: September 09, 2008, 12:03:15 PM »
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Not for people photography with manual focus. I need all the viewfinder brightness I can get for fast and critical focusing. ND filters might also impair AF performance.
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why the need for f2 lens and flash.  if you shoot f2 with flash then iso will probably have to become iso 10.

if shooter is outside in bright sunlight and you can only go to 500 shutter speed then maybe a .3 nd filtration will not be a problem as bright sunlight is very easy to focus even when using a .3 nd.

the f+h camera is so bright in the viewfinder that a .3 will probably be the equal of others viewfinders.

in factual do not you have a 50 iso camera anyway.  

think of all the expense you have saved.
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« Reply #187 on: September 09, 2008, 01:11:36 PM »
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why the need for f2 lens and flash.  if you shoot f2 with flash then iso will probably have to become iso 10.

if shooter is outside in bright sunlight and you can only go to 500 shutter speed then maybe a .3 nd filtration will not be a problem as bright sunlight is very easy to focus even when using a .3 nd.

the f+h camera is so bright in the viewfinder that a .3 will probably be the equal of others viewfinders.

in factual do not you have a 50 iso camera anyway. 

think of all the expense you have saved.
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The same for me. A low sensitivity digital back is really important to use in the studio with large aperture and less depth-of-field. A sophisticated lighting with strobes gives allways high level of lighting.

It was really different in the era of 4/5 and 8/10 inches standard jobs...

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« Reply #188 on: September 09, 2008, 01:20:13 PM »
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why the need for f2 lens and flash. 
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I am not sure I understand the point, but I want to control lighting, of course. I almost never shoot in natural light. I might also want a shallow DOF.
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« Reply #189 on: September 15, 2008, 10:31:05 AM »
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And here it is confirmed:

the ISO range for the "Sinar Hy6 - 65" and the Sinarback eSprit 65 LV will be ISO 100 to 800.

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it looks like our measurements of the base ISO of this sensor is closer to 200 than 100 (given a certain working space and contrast curve).
The current data is given as a "conservative" value, and possibly it will have ISO 100 as a setting as well.

Best regards,
Thierry
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« Reply #190 on: September 19, 2008, 04:43:28 AM »
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FYI:

I just saw the Sinar Hy6 - 65 shooting some images. I am impressed by the display, very bright and high-res. The "rotating" display, when the camera is turned from H to V or opposite, is also very nice and impressive. A very nice feature, IMO.

Leaving with all that gear to Photokina now, and hoping to meet some of you at our booth: you are warmly welcome to visit us.

Best regards,
Thierry
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« Reply #191 on: September 19, 2008, 04:54:51 AM »
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Thierry,
Please let us know when there are ISO 100 & 800 dngs to download.
Thank you,
Billy
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« Reply #192 on: September 19, 2008, 05:18:06 AM »
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some things I cannot understand

eMotion75 does have an mamiya RZ Pro II adapter
so why not esprit65?

Can the emotion adapter be used for the esprit?

If you have an mamiya 645 AFDIII adapter, you should be able to connect it to an RZ Pro II D ?

Is it possible to attach an external hard Disk (as with Hasselblad imagebank)?

When using the esprit65 on the Hasselblad V system, does it rotate?

ISO 800 is fine
possibly one can push to 1600 with software?

can 't wait to check it out at my dealer ;-)
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« Reply #193 on: September 19, 2008, 05:33:46 AM »
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Thierry,

Would you please define for me the respective roles of the Hy6 verse the Sinar M?

Advantages/disadvantages of each for other than studio work - landscape, arch., street work.

Thanks
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« Reply #194 on: September 19, 2008, 09:51:51 AM »
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eMotion75 does have an mamiya RZ Pro II adapter
so why not esprit65?
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The eSprit 65 does accept excatly the same adapters as the eMotion series (54 LV, 75 and 75 LV). The mechanical adaption is not a problem, but for the time being, only the Hy6 and the V system are supported by the back and by the software.

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Can the emotion adapter be used for the esprit?
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Yes, see above, but no FW and software support yet for this camera platform (Mamiya RZ 67).

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If you have an mamiya 645 AFDIII adapter, you should be able to connect it to an RZ Pro II D ?
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Yes, but see above: it must be supported by the back's firmware (and eXposure software).

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Is it possible to attach an external hard Disk (as with Hasselblad imagebank)?
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No external hard disk, CF cards or tethered.

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When using the esprit65 on the Hasselblad V system, does it rotate?
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It rotates, by taking the back away and mounting it V or H, but no revolving adapter is available.

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ISO 800 is fine
possibly one can push to 1600 with software?
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Possibly

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can 't wait to check it out at my dealer ;-)
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Best regards,
Thierry
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« Reply #195 on: September 20, 2008, 11:47:15 AM »
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Thierry,
great news indeed.

I hope for 1600 "usable-no-noise" ISO
and adapterplates for my V system and Mamiya RZ pro II

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Full specifications and uk pricing is published [a href=\"http://www.image2output.com/Product.aspx?id=2151&cat=38]technical specs for hy6 65 and eSprit[/url]
maybe this will give Thierry some rest!
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