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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2008, 07:42:43 PM »
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We know the size of the LCD screen, but how many pixels does it have?
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2008, 07:52:23 PM »
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Fritzer,

Not sure what kind of shooting you're doing.  But the iTouch compatibility if it works well is a god send.  Hand the client the iTouch and they're not hovering over your shoulder or the digital techs shoulder will be amazing.  Not having to set up a third monitor on a stand away from the machine for them to view so they are out of the way will be great.

I just used an Aptus with the new LC 11 yesterday and worked with out a hitch all day. 10 hours of shooting and not a hitch.

REAL LIFE resolution?            Do you need to shoot microscopic photography of the pimples on your ass and billboard it on the side of the empire state building?

Just downloaded LC 11 through Safari and all works fine here.

The current state of backs are fine!  Some small little things here and there.  But overall they are working great.  Better high iso noise ration would be great!  Rock stable software, almost there with Leaf and Phase.

They're are some really miserable people in this world.  Go out and SHOOT!

I could care less about any of these companies.  Just give me a product that works.  They are busting their butts off to get the stuff out there and get it working.  Keeping up with technology, fluctuating economies, and updating software to work with various operating softwares and firmware bugs from OS's.

You get what you pay for!

If you can't afford it or feel like just digging at companies.  GET OFF THIS BOARD!

Congrats YaYa!  I look forward to seeing what comes out from you, phase, sinar and hasselblad.  Leaf's new products look promising!

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So the sensor is rotating ?
I assume it will take at least a year to find out if that solution provides proper sharpness, let alone reliability.
Using mainly an LF camera, I'm not really exited.

56x36 : Leaf is listening, indeed ! To whom ? Not much gained in terms of real-life resolution.
Listen to that: stop charging a silly amount, if anything, for the life view dongle.

iPhone and iPod compatibility - that the best you can do for remote viewing ?
Download the required app via iTunes - so now a 30k DB has turned into just another gadget ?

Also, the leaf-photography website doesn't work properly on Safari; to all Mac users, Firefox is working.

I'm really questioning my decision to go the Leaf way....
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2008, 09:19:45 PM »
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Hello everyone,

A press release has gone out this morning (EU time) along with a set of PDFs and product shots on our website.

Everyone have already heard about the new Leaf 56MP solutions in the shape of the AFi-10 and the Aptus 10. However with Photokina only 2 weeks away, we have decided to spill some more beans about the exciting new line of Leaf products:
I thought I'll give you all a quick rundown of this new and exciting line of products:

Flexibility: Leaf is listening

An all new AFi-II and Aptus-II range, based on 28,33 and 56MP sensors, this new range is offering the most flexible tool set with some unique and unbeatable features:

Leaf Verto technology: the Leaf AFi-II 7 and the Leaf AFi-II 10 have an internally rotating sensor

New 3.5” LCD touch screen: All AFi-II and Aptus-II models offer a brighter screen with more contrast to allow for better viewing both indoors and outdoors

Tilt screen: On the AFi-II 7 and AFi-II 10, you can tilt the screen upwards (up to 90º), for easier and better viewing in the studio or outside
The new screen is now working also when tethered on AFi, AFi-II and Aptus-II, allowing for image viewing, focus check, histogram, image info and some basic controls.

Leaf SensorFlex technology: On the AFi-II 10 and Aptus-II 10 you can now choose between several pre-defined crops, enabling you to save space and speed up your work in cases where not all 56MP are required, by increasing capture rate and reducing the raw file size and pixel count.

Seamless move between tethered and portable modes: As long as you have a CF card in the camera, you can pull the FW800 cable at anytime and continue to shoot

New cable release for the AFi and AFi-II that is connected to the imaging module

iPhone and iPod Touch compatibility: A new Leaf software application will allow you to use your iPhone or iPod touch for viewing your images and controlling your imaging module while tethered. This new Leaf software will be available for download via iTunes and will be demonstrated at Photokina.

New Leaf Capture 11.2

Leaf AFi-II bi-directional controls: dynamic exposure meter, exposure and metering modes, aperture and shutter speed, exposure compensation, flash sync and mirror controls

Schneider electronic shutter control In addition to the already supported Rollei e-Shutter.

Colour Live View on AFi, AFi-II and Aptus-II: You can now choose to work in either colour or B&W and we’ve added a Gray balance tool as well as a Brightness slider control.

Improved Compare view: Panning and Zooming can now be done simultaneously on multiple images
Software registration: you can now receive a notification whenever a new version of software/ firmware is made available for your camera

Availability: The new AFi-II 6, 7 and Aptus-II 6,7 will be available for delivery at Photokina. The AFi-II 10 will start shipping at the end of Q4 and the Aptus-II 10 is expected in early Q1/2009

All of this (and more) is going to be shown at Photokina, starting Sept 23rd. I'm hoping to see some of you there.

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Hello Yair,

Are your able to tell us what the maximum Exposure Time that the new Aptus-II Backs are capable of? I do not find this information listed in any of the new literature.
 
Are they still limited to a maximum of 32 seconds?

Thank you for all your help with Leaf product information on this Forum.

Joe Bossuyt
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2008, 11:08:37 PM »
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So in leaf 11.2 will the older aptus backs be able to show a preview at the same time they are tethered?
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2008, 11:26:25 PM »
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Yair,

Very interesting news!   

About LC 11.2, any improvements in tone curve or fill light, recovery etc? LC already interpret my Aptus 65 files better than any software, but so far seem aimed at studio where light can be controlled. For my landscape and outdoor photo has seemed difficult to use. Any news on more controls?

Much thanks for info!   

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Yair or anyone,

Any reply to my question, or did I miss it among all posts...Huh

Thanks

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2008, 12:59:32 AM »
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Joe,

The 56MP backs are capable of 60 seconds and we are looking for ways to implement this successfully in the 28MP and 33MP versions.

Anders,

Sorry it was me that missed your first post. There is no change in how to tone curve works in 11.2 compared to current versions.

T-1000,

The LCD's resolution is 320X240

Kyle,

The screen works when tethered only on AFi, AFi-II and Aptus-II models, but not on Aptus and Aptus S

Rich,

This is planned for a later firmware update, no timeframe for this as yet

BR

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2008, 03:19:00 AM »
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Whinge, whinge, whinge

I'm really questioning my decision to go the Leaf way....
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Jesus, get a grip.
And some perspective - How were you shooting 10 years ago, huh?
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2008, 08:16:25 AM »
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Yair,
Does the support of the schneider electronic shutter depend on the model of the back being used or does it apply to any Leaf back?

thanks, David

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.....Schneider electronic shutter control In addition to the already supported Rollei e-Shutter....
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2008, 08:16:55 AM »
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The LCD's resolution is 320X240

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Yair, Is this the same resolution that's always been sent to the LCD? Would 320x240 be sent to the iphone as well? Would those same number of pixels look any better on the iphone screen?

I've seen your Leaf ads in PDN, and the screen image in those ads always look great. It looks like that in real life, yes?

When I shoot a picture with my iPhone, the picture looks amazing on the screen. Your Leaf preview would equal that quality?

Thank you!
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2008, 09:17:48 AM »
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(320x240) x 3 colors = 230.400 pixels
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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2008, 09:27:13 AM »
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Yair, Is this the same resolution that's always been sent to the LCD? Would 320x240 be sent to the iphone as well? Would those same number of pixels look any better on the iphone screen?

I've seen your Leaf ads in PDN, and the screen image in those ads always look great. It looks like that in real life, yes?

When I shoot a picture with my iPhone, the picture looks amazing on the screen. Your Leaf preview would equal that quality?

Thank you!
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The preview for the iPhone is generated by the Mac specifically for the iPhone's screen so resolution, contrast and even colour profiling are all done for this with a very impressive image quality and since it is coming from a 40K back it looks better than the iPhone's own camera:-)

Yair
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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2008, 09:29:25 AM »
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Yair,

Please clarify the screen resolution for me, it's not adding up as the numbers are presented. The Aptus has a screen with 211,680 pixels. I can't find what those actual horizontal and vertical pixels are. But if the new Aptus-II and AFi-II screens have 320x240, that only equals 76,800.

I'm trying to figure out how much better the new version is, but things don't add up correctly.

Added: The main thing I like least about the Aptus screen is that it looks 'crunchy' pixel-wise for a lack of a better word. If the new screens are brighter and have more contrast, that is a huge plus but is the same crunchiness still there?
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it's a 230K screen and the answer for how much better is ALLOT better. When you see it next to your screen you will have a better idea, trust me

Yair
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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2008, 09:34:42 AM »
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Yair, Is this the same resolution that's always been sent to the LCD? Would 320x240 be sent to the iphone as well? Would those same number of pixels look any better on the iphone screen?

I've seen your Leaf ads in PDN, and the screen image in those ads always look great. It looks like that in real life, yes?

When I shoot a picture with my iPhone, the picture looks amazing on the screen. Your Leaf preview would equal that quality?

Thank you!
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I wonder the same also.  most medium format previews are like the old cell phone with big noise and crunch.  

not like the canon or nikon who do in camera processes of jpegs and previews.

my aptus has a lot of the crunch.  at first customers say great what a big view but then they start asking if the final will look like that.

do the new leafs do in camera process like the new sinars and like the canons or do they have the crunch look.

thank you.
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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2008, 09:41:41 AM »
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The preview for the iPhone is generated by the Mac specifically for the iPhone's screen so resolution, contrast and even colour profiling are all done for this with a very impressive image quality and since it is coming from a 40K back it looks better than the iPhone's own camera:-)

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I do not understand.  does not the image go from the camera to the iphone.  

does the iphone work only if the camera is first on a tether to the computer.

is the iphone system work only with a computer.

you say the new camera screen is better.   does it look like the iphone image.

thank you.
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2008, 09:51:33 AM »
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I do not understand.  does not the image go from the camera to the iphone. 
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I wonder the same thing -- the whole goal for the iphone preview is so that you can shoot on location much more easily, and without dragging around a laptop.

Can you shoot from the back directly to the iphone, without any computer present?

If I'm going to drag around a laptop on location, why would I want to see the image on an iphone? I'd rather show the client the preview on a 17" Macbook Pro than an iphone.

Thanks.
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« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2008, 09:56:44 AM »
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What I do like with Leaf is that they aren't promising anything they can't deliver in a very short amount of time. These announcements come with release dates. That can't be said for Phase who several years ago was praised for a product timeline with wireless and CO V4 Pro both which are vapor for sometime.
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Ahummm.... I only want to say LC10 or LC for Windows...
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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2008, 12:12:47 PM »
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Ahummm.... I only want to say LC10 or LC for Windows...
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Where can we get some information on what these new cameras are going to cost???
I am a Phase One guy but am interested in the new leaf systems...:+}
Where can I get some idea of what it would cost to move over to leaf if needed or wanted too?
Thanks for any help
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« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2008, 12:19:03 PM »
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Yair, I was on the brink of buying an Ipaq to view images shooting in the field with my Aptus 17. Would my back work with your new software and Ipod touch / Iphone or is it just the AF cameras & backs that are supported?  Thanks for your guidance, C
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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2008, 01:44:10 PM »
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Where can we get some information on what these new cameras are going to cost???
I am a Phase One guy but am interested in the new leaf systems...:+}
Where can I get some idea of what it would cost to move over to leaf if needed or wanted too?
Thanks for any help
Snook
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SNOOK, Check the earlier post by Yair...


QUOTE - Within a week we'll have all the prices for these new products, including trade-in paths.

In general I would say that they are similar to the current prices or a bit lower.

BTW the full press release is available here

Yair
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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2008, 03:37:19 PM »
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re iPhone:

The new iPhone software works only when the Leaf back (Valeo, Aptus, Aptus S, Aptus-II, AFi and AFi-II) is tethered to a Mac.

The iPhone/ iPod Touch connects to the Mac via WiFi - internet, meaning the iPhone doesn't have to be physically near the Mac...

Possible applications:

1. You are shooting in a studio in Paris while your client is in a meeting in NY, where they can watch the images as you shoot.

2. You are shooting a car's interior with your ALPA stuck inside in an awkward position. The client/ tech and the rest of the gang are all hanging around the 30" while you need to compose and focus on the instruments panel. Now the iPhone comes out, with Live View running on it, allowing you to frame and focus, in colour, on a 4" beautiful screen

There are more but you can get the drift.

To have Wi-Fi built in the digital back or as an accessory is a big and complicated project, as some of our fellow makers would tell you.

We do have Bluetooth that works with iPaq's however the iPhone's Bluetooth module at the moment is limited to headsets and handsfree devices and it cannot handle heavier use.

re preview quality on the back's LCD: I think the best advice would be to wait another 2 weeks, after which everyone will be able to see the improvement in their own eyes.

Yair

PS we will have an FAQ file available on our website shortly covering everything regarding the new products. I will post a link once it is up
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