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« on: September 17, 2008, 12:50:14 AM »
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I have an i1 Display 2 device to calibrate my monitor and noticed that the ColorMunki Photo is now being promoted on xrite's website. Does it replace the i1 for monitor calibration? If so, do you find it superior (software, speed to make a monitor profile, consistency, accuracy) to the i1?

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 01:34:38 AM »
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I have an i1 Display 2 device to calibrate my monitor and noticed that the ColorMunki Photo is now being promoted on xrite's website. Does it replace the i1 for monitor calibration? If so, do you find it superior (software, speed to make a monitor profile, consistency, accuracy) to the i1?

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Nik
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The i1 display 2 colorimeter calibrates displays whereas Colormunki spectrometer calibrates displays and profiles printers.  Colormunki is more like i1 Photo.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 01:57:37 AM »
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I own both and in most cases i find i1 display2 equal if not better than colormunki in terms of monitor profile quality. On the other hand colormunki has many more capabilities besides monitor calibration one.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 01:59:38 AM »
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It's not at all replacing an i1 PRo, nor the i1D2. It is however a very well designed device that can do everything an i1 pro can for desktop purposes. The software though is decidedly set to a novice or even beginner level, where as the i1D2 comes with i1 Match which is at least more familiar to me, thus seemingly  options are where they need to be for use with display or even profiling with the ProfileMaker libraries and charts (i1 Pro spectro of course).


The CM software is only good for 3 installs, whereas the i1D2 and i1 Match pretty much unlimited. You can profile whatever you need without activation etc. I'm not sure that you can deactivate the CM software as Adobe applications can.

I only started using the CM yesterday so I can't say if the results for monitor calibration are different than i1 Match.
Later today I'll try to profile , comparing the profile to i1 Match too.

From what I can see so far the CM will be everything needed for the user base for which it is intended. The i1D2 still is a must have colorimeter for monitor calibration with the supplied i1 Match or for third party software (costing as much as the device itself).
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 12:16:38 PM »
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Thanks Neil, that makes sense. Are you using any of the 3rd party monitor calibration software you referred to? I'm using i1's 3.6.2 and think (as do others) that it could be much improved.

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It's not at all replacing an i1 PRo, nor the i1D2. It is however a very well designed device that can do everything an i1 pro can for desktop purposes. The software though is decidedly set to a novice or even beginner level, where as the i1D2 comes with i1 Match which is at least more familiar to me, thus seemingly  options are where they need to be for use with display or even profiling with the ProfileMaker libraries and charts (i1 Pro spectro of course).
The CM software is only good for 3 installs, whereas the i1D2 and i1 Match pretty much unlimited. You can profile whatever you need without activation etc. I'm not sure that you can deactivate the CM software as Adobe applications can.

I only started using the CM yesterday so I can't say if the results for monitor calibration are different than i1 Match.
Later today I'll try to profile , comparing the profile to i1 Match too.

From what I can see so far the CM will be everything needed for the user base for which it is intended. The i1D2 still is a must have colorimeter for monitor calibration with the supplied i1 Match or for third party software (costing as much as the device itself).
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 12:27:40 PM »
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Thanks Neil, that makes sense. Are you using any of the 3rd party monitor calibration software you referred to? I'm using i1's 3.6.2 and think (as do others) that it could be much improved.

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I use Color Eyes. BasicColor Display is very nice too. They go beyond what the supplied software with the devices can do.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 04:45:00 PM »
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I use Color Eyes. BasicColor Display is very nice too. They go beyond what the supplied software with the devices can do.
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I use Basiccolor Display, ColorEyes is very nice too

All of my color geek friends or acquaintances -like Neil -  use one of thes two packages, except for those whose monitor (Eizo, Quato, NEC,, LaCie) comes with proprietary software.

I guess people wiith the ColorMunki should ask Xrite to license their SDK to these two specialist firms. Of course we geeks could also explain in more detail what we think of the other "generic" software

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 04:49:08 PM »
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The CM software is only good for 3 installs, whereas the i1D2 and i1 Match pretty much unlimited.

True although there's nothing stopping you from installing on more than three machines (activation, network savvy identification). But the EULA does limit the number of installs.

For me, the biggest difference is, as you point out, the "quality" of the software functionality and options. From the perspective of hardware, CM is in some cases a better instrument.

And if you wish an automated measuring process, forget CM. There's no i0 upgrade.
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I guess people wiith the ColorMunki should ask Xrite to license their SDK to these two specialist firms.

What makes you think that hasn't happened without the need for people asking?
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 05:07:16 PM »
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What makes you think that hasn't happened without the need for people asking?
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Have I missed the anouncement of CE or Basiccolor for CM ?
That would be good news.

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Have I missed the anouncement of CE or Basiccolor for CM ?

Based on the bad behavior of the ColorEye's guys on various lists, I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before they have CM support for at least one of the companies discussed....
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 04:03:27 AM »
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Based on the bad behavior of the ColorEye's guys on various lists, I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before they have CM support for at least one of the companies discussed....
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Well, fortunately their product still speaks for itself, then -

As dar as I can see, Xrite are shooting themselves in the foot by not getting the CM support out there *quickly* for both these programs. I hate to have to dig out an i1 Pro to profile my screens.

It's amazing how quickly Basiccolor re-engineered a top-flight engine after they lost the license to the first one. The transition has been seamless.

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