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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2008, 03:14:00 PM »
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I am used to it..
There are many ready to jump all over anything in here.. quite amusing actually.
That is how wars get started in the first place..

Anyways I would like to add that I do feel for the poster. It is an awful feeling right next to having your gear stolen..

But I bet you he will never put a HD underneath again..:+]
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Racist remarks really can't be justified, not on a public forum read by people the world over.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2008, 03:28:11 PM »
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Racist remarks really can't be justified, not on a public forum read by people the world over.
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I am in no way a racist and actually take offense to you saying I am..
Now we are even..
Get over it.
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2008, 03:36:11 PM »
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I am in no way a racist and actually take offense to you saying I am..
Now we are even..
Get over it.
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So you think that referring to people as sand monkeys is o.k.? Or sand monks?
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2008, 03:41:15 PM »
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So you think that referring to people as sand monkeys is o.k.? Or sand monks?
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Of course I do that is why I wrote it...;+]

Now get over it...

That is the beauty of "Freedom of Speech" and photography...

Snook
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2008, 03:44:50 PM »
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Thanks guys,
The original message from my post was not to whine about my losses.
I do understand the importance of back ups and multiple copies. My laptop has all the selects from each day of shoot saved as large jpgs. All raws were  saved in the folders on my MackBook pro before moved to external hard drive so with help of a time machine they can be recovered. I already have arrangements with Gillware Inc to recover the files from HD for $1800.
As far as putting files on line from remote location I believe that it is very unrealistic. Internet access is still luxury in lots of parts of the world where I am shooting and even if you get on line the rate of transfer is so slow that it would take forever to back up files.
As far as choosing between cameras and hard drives to take on a plane the call is also not that obvious. Two DB's with two sets of cameras mount to $100K and are the target number one of baggage handlers way before they would touch the HD. Besides over the years I also had my hand luggage stolen, had been rubbed on the way to plane etc. There truly is no way to protect yourself 100%.

My point is exactly what Anton wrote in his reply:
I spoke to real person at costumer service at Lacie. I took his word his name and his assurance. I marked the box and the Lacie case with RED huge notes in hope that this will make it an IDIOT prove . What I got is a service that maybe Anton is acustom to in NYC but I still struggle with the direction were the world is going to. In my years in business I made massive deals based on man word and a hand shake. It seem that it means nothing anymore and to trust someone it means that you are stupid. I meant my post to be a warning. I personally will be fine regardless of outcome.
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I may be understanding this wrong.  bottom of the line is all of the original files were with the baggage out of your sight.

wow.

I find that very dangerous because we know portable drives that are sized small to fit in a briefcase will hold 500 megas each and are made to be easy to keep with you.

I do not understand how this becomes a lacie problem for them to have the responsibility.

I am sorry for your loss and hope it works out with a happy end for you and your customer.
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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2008, 03:45:20 PM »
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Of course I do that is why I wrote it...;+]

Now get over it...

That is the beauty of "Freedom of Speech" and photography...

Snook
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Snook you need love. ;-)
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2008, 03:47:33 PM »
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So you think that referring to people as sand monkeys is o.k.? Or sand monks?
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I do not think you should say bad things about monkeys.
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« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2008, 03:56:45 PM »
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Of course I do that is why I wrote it...;+]

Now get over it...

That is the beauty of "Freedom of Speech" and photography...

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Ah, the true beauty of free speech, you can make racist comments to your hearts content, the idealism of it all.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2008, 04:03:14 PM »
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http://www.netwind.com/html/databack_pro.html

Lost and found software.
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2008, 04:06:30 PM »
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Can we get back on topic guys?

Andre, few years ago when I was in college I work in the campus bookstore as an apple tech. I remember there was a hard drive recovery name that was always thrown around as the best and their prices were much lower than some of the other larger names out there... If I can dig up the name and number Ill message you with it.

From my experience I think If they only did a single pass reformat all of your data should (should) be recoverable. I don't want to get your hopes up, but I think its very possible to recover most the data.
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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2008, 04:53:49 PM »
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Funny thing about so-called racist remarks: it seems to depend on who happens to be making them.

Many times on TV I see some black dude refer to another black dude as "my nigga" and nobody thinks thatīs offensive. I donīt think it is either, but then, thatīs because the actor doing the names is black himself, I suppose.

I remember once, many years ago in India, an Indian lad called me a pink rat; I wasnīt upset, just surprised to find that a fellow schoolboy would choose to resort to names based on colour... after several years there, it was the one and only time I came across that. I canīt say Iīd be offended to be called honky either - names are just that. There is something hellishly sad about the way in which political correctness has crept into the mainstream of life these past fifteen or so years. Far from creating a calmer atmosphere, a less stressful world, it has, in my opinion and experience, done the very opposite: created an atmosphere where somebody is just hanging on in there waiting to run to a lawyer and plead some form of victimisation. We are bloody good at that in the UK now. Fortunately, here in Spain, there is a far more laid back attitude.

An example: sitting in my local bar, having something to eat, I caught this conversation at the next table, where two north Africans and a Spanish guy were having a drink. The bar-owner wandered over and made some remark to them about moslems and one of the guys remarked loudly that he wasnīt an African moslem, he was a Spanish African moslem and had the papers to prove it! Well, the entire conversation was in very good humour, with all the parties knowing each other from frequently meeting in that bar. Not a sour voice was heard - it was all in noisy, live-and-let-live manner and with much laughter, proving that with the right mindset you can all share racist remarks and see a funny side. And thatīs the point: you have to be unaware of political correctness or you canīt have that freeīnīeasy approach to life. God help Spain when or if it buys into THIS import, one we sure donīt need!

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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2008, 05:26:33 PM »
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http://www.abolishthenword.com/
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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2008, 05:39:39 PM »
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For data recovery...  this has worked very well for me and can handle RAID volumes.

FileScavenger is for Windows systems.

http://www.quetek.com/

The first time I had a Lacie drive fail, I returned it to the service department and they told me the 'couldn't recover any data'. I was sickened, I searched the net, downloaded the trial of File Scavenger and it worked.

I only needed it to recover my multiple failed Lacie D2 250 drives. Since I stopped buying Lacie I haven't another disc failure.  

Lacie products I owned

1) Rubberised 20Gb Pocket Drive  -  worked fine
2) Lacie D2 250 Gb #1     - failed after 6 months
3) Lacie D2 250 Gb #2     - failed after 6 months
4) Lacie D2 250 Gb #3     - failed after 2 years
5) Lacie D2 DVD writer     - failed to write all claimed formats.

So I haven't bought any of their products since.
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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2008, 06:01:40 PM »
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Funny thing about so-called racist remarks: it seems to depend on who happens to be making them.

Many times on TV I see some black dude refer to another black dude as "my nigga" and nobody thinks thatīs offensive. I donīt think it is either, but then, thatīs because the actor doing the names is black himself, I suppose.

I remember once, many years ago in India, an Indian lad called me a pink rat; I wasnīt upset, just surprised to find that a fellow schoolboy would choose to resort to names based on colour... after several years there, it was the one and only time I came across that. I canīt say Iīd be offended to be called honky either - names are just that. There is something hellishly sad about the way in which political correctness has crept into the mainstream of life these past fifteen or so years. Far from creating a calmer atmosphere, a less stressful world, it has, in my opinion and experience, done the very opposite: created an atmosphere where somebody is just hanging on in there waiting to run to a lawyer and plead some form of victimisation. We are bloody good at that in the UK now. Fortunately, here in Spain, there is a far more laid back attitude.

An example: sitting in my local bar, having something to eat, I caught this conversation at the next table, where two north Africans and a Spanish guy were having a drink. The bar-owner wandered over and made some remark to them about moslems and one of the guys remarked loudly that he wasnīt an African moslem, he was a Spanish African moslem and had the papers to prove it! Well, the entire conversation was in very good humour, with all the parties knowing each other from frequently meeting in that bar. Not a sour voice was heard - it was all in noisy, live-and-let-live manner and with much laughter, proving that with the right mindset you can all share racist remarks and see a funny side. And thatīs the point: you have to be unaware of political correctness or you canīt have that freeīnīeasy approach to life. God help Spain when or if it buys into THIS import, one we sure donīt need!

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Yes Rob, political correctness gone mad, Spain is a shining Beacon of hope, here's a nice picture from the Spanish grand prix. For people who don't know they are referring to Hamilton who happens to be a black driver:
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What an awful world it would be if this kind of thing wasn't tolerated.
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« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2008, 07:09:33 PM »
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Alright, look.  I'm operating under the assumption that I am one of the very few persons of color or African-Americans who frequents this forum.  That said, references to "sand monkeys" (derived from "sand nigger", presumably), not surprisingly, rub me the wrong way.  They strike me as unnecessary, childish and offensive, as does that dumb ass picture of a bunch of idiots in blackface.

Before you get your "political correctness/persecuted by liberals" panties all in a bunch, let me also point out that I'm a professor of law who specializes in civil rights and civil liberties.  As such, I'm unimpressed by your whining about your "free speech" being suppressed.  First off, the government isn't suppressing your speech here.  Second, in fact, no one is suppressing your speech here; only Michael can do that.  All I'm doing is exercising MY right to free speech by calling you out as an ignorant racist.

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Yes Rob, political correctness gone mad, Spain is a shining Beacon of hope, here's a nice picture from the Spanish grand prix. For people who don't know they are referring to Hamilton who happens to be a black driver:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_0...ton_468x308.jpg
What an awful world it would be if this kind of thing wasn't tolerated.
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« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2008, 07:14:46 PM »
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andre....as much as i feel for you....would you EVER have checked the bag with film in your luggage? no....same goes for the HDs....
data recovery should be able to get your stuff back unless somebody wrote over it already or did some crazy o level format....
i have a lot of lacie equipment...HDs, DVD burners, monitors....never had a problem...and i actually find the lacie people some of the most helpful around.....

sandisk has a lot of deals going on right now and i am buying cards like crazy.....8gb extremeIII card come out to about almost nothing right now....so i start the back up with the cards....i do not format them at the shoot....i am planning to have enough cards so i can do 3 shoots (should be about 20 cards max) without reformating the first batch.....then on the HD, then on the raid, then offsite (online) storage.....provides one more level of back-up.....
and photorescue does an amazing job of recovering files from cards (even if they are reformated..)

the good thing about digital is that it really is only money and lazyness that keeps us for being 100% safe...film was always only in one place (where fires, water, theft,.....could happen at any time).....

drives are getting bigger and cheaper....there are no excuses.....

still loosing a shoot like that totally sucks and can happen because these things do happen....back-up cameras usually break at the same time as the main....
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« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2008, 08:59:55 PM »
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psst... I flew on a 5 seater oct 5th 1980.
I flew to california and back to tick off an ex-gf in 2000.
I flew to california and back to my bff's wedding in 2005.

other than that, I stay grounded.
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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2008, 03:07:14 AM »
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Many times on TV I see some black dude refer to another black dude as "my nigga" and nobody thinks thatīs offensive. I donīt think it is either, but then, thatīs because the actor doing the names is black himself, I suppose.
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I found [a href=\"http://www.theonion.com/content/video/use_of_n_word_may_end_porn_stars]this[/url] hilarious - to save the blushes of those sensitive souls here, don't watch it if you choose to be offended by nudity, bad language or indeed satirical humour.

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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2008, 09:21:59 AM »
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I found this hilarious - to save the blushes of those sensitive souls here, don't watch it if you choose to be offended by nudity, bad language or indeed satirical humour.

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Yep, quite funny indeed! But then, you canīt be pc and also see the point of the joke in the link.

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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2008, 09:36:20 AM »
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Yep, quite funny indeed! But then, you canīt be pc and also see the point of the joke in the link.

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In the link they were making fun of the absurdity of the whole situation, which was funny, thats very different to an off hand racist remark.
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