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« on: September 18, 2008, 05:49:43 PM »
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There have been new appearances of rumours about a possible 40MP Nikon modular medium format camera and could be featuring a 54 x 54mm square sensor.

The camera would be announced on Nov 8th together with a set of new MF lenses including a 24 mm f4, 45 mm f2.8 and 85 mm f2.8 + one zoom (65-180 f2.Cool and 2 longer lenses (135 f2.0 and 200 f2.Cool.

This is obviously just a rumour and I have no insider information to either validate it or bust it.

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 05:55:04 PM »
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are you starting this rumor or did you get it from somewhere else?
if the latter tell us where.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 06:04:21 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 06:14:09 PM »
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you didn't see this old thread already?
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=27733
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 06:53:22 PM »
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www.nikonrumors.com
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 07:09:28 PM »
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are you starting this rumor or did you get it from somewhere else?
if the latter tell us where.
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Not sure why small me would be starting a rumour, but if I were influential enough to influence downwards the price of MF cameras I probably would.

Here are the information sources:

[a href=\"http://www.nikonrumors.com/]http://www.nikonrumors.com/[/url] (search the page for "MX lenses").

On top of that a mobile phone shot picture of a page in Japanese showing a multiple resolution configuration chart including FX (current D3 resolution) and MX (6380 x 6380) was also circulated. The right hald of that page was a bit dodgy though.

On top of that several comments were made by Thom Hogan about a Nikon event on Nov 8th during which a modular high end camera would be announced (he didn't comment explicitely on it being medium format).

There were also other reports about a Nikon pres "special event that hasn't had an equal" on Saturday Nov 8th from Dutch sources.

Still rumours obviously.

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 07:12:34 PM »
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you didn't see this old thread already?
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=27733
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I had read some of that thread, but it was mostly about a Mamiya rangefinder, right?

I wouldn't be half as interested in that as I would in a pure Nikon MF system. Think of the quality of the design and of the lenses...

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 07:58:42 PM »
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I hope it's true.  But I hope it's NOT a rangefinder.  That would just be... stupid.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 08:07:00 PM »
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who here shoots nikon?

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 08:13:31 PM »
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Isn't that just the best way to slow down MFDB sales.....? Of course, if its true, that would be great too....
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 09:07:16 PM »
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I had read some of that thread, but it was mostly about a Mamiya rangefinder, right?
Bernard, you missed the best part of the rumor, namely that the new MX camera would be a rangefinder similar in size to the Mamiya 6, with a new mount for the MX lenses, and an adapter for Nikon FX and DX lenses. Use of FX and DX lenses, via the adapter, would result in an in-camera crop, similar to DX on the D3. I love the rumor - I'm just not sure I believe it. If it weren't for one well known person who seems to think it's not all hot air, I would totally blow this rumor off as pure fantasy.

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Isn't that just the best way to slow down MFDB sales.....? Of course, if its true, that would be great too....
I don't think Nikon cares too much about existing MFDB sales. MFDB sales are peanuts compared to their sales volumes. If this is true, I suspect their plans are a lot more ambitious.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 10:23:53 PM »
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Isn't that just the best way to slow down MFDB sales.....? Of course, if its true, that would be great too....
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Well, Nov 8th is fairly soon, and the newly announced backs will probably mostly not be available by then anyway...

I would personnally hate to buy a 30.000 US$ back only to find out shortly after than Nikon is releasing something cheaper.

Anyway, rumours are just that. Whether you decide to believe them or not is your own decision.

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 10:25:08 PM »
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who here shoots nikon?

*raises hand*
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Sure, I confess that I do. But I also shoot a Mamiya ZD, and its value will be next to zero the minute Nikon announces something like that...

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 10:33:57 PM »
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Bernard, you missed the best part of the rumor, namely that the new MX camera would be a rangefinder similar in size to the Mamiya 6, with a new mount for the MX lenses, and an adapter for Nikon FX and DX lenses. Use of FX and DX lenses, via the adapter, would result in an in-camera crop, similar to DX on the D3.
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Indeed, I missed that part. I would be surprised if it were a rangefinder, but you never know.

As far as believing or not... you have to wonder. What could come next after the current crop of 20+ MP FF bodies that brings actual value to photographers while allowing camera manufacturers to keep making big money?

The current lenses are becoming the limiting factor on 35 mm.

Nikon has publicly declared that their intention is to focus on high end and smaller volumes.

So all in all, it would make sense IMHO for them to try to expand the existing categories and find real ways to deliver better values for photographers looking for even better image quality without spending 40.000+ US$ for a full system.

People have been willing to pay 8.000 US$ for a 1ds3/ZD, there is little doubt that at least the same amount of people would be willing to pay 10.000 US$ for a medium format body with all the advantages of a Nikon make.

It is at least plausible enough to consider that Nikon might think of doing such things. They have made very bold moves before, the D1 started the DSLR revolution and cut the price of the super high end Kodak in 4 for instance,... would a Nikon MX body be that different?

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 10:40:23 PM »
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The camera would be announced on Nov 8th together with a set of new MF lenses including a 24 mm f4, 45 mm f2.8 and 85 mm f2.8

Coincidentally the same focal length of their revamped tilt shift lineup


The rumored zoom would also require a feat of engineering to work in the rangefinder
format I would imagine but then again Contax had one for their G1/G2 35mm rangefinders.


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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2008, 01:43:21 AM »
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Coincidentally the same focal length of their revamped tilt shift lineup
The rumored zoom would also require a feat of engineering to work in the rangefinder
format I would imagine but then again Contax had one for their G1/G2 35mm rangefinders.
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As long as we're having a little fun here, I'm thinking a simple, hi-rez, electronic viewfinder using live view off the sensor, as well as contrast-based AF and metering off the sensor. No expensive mirror mechanism or pentaprism, no seperate AF and metering sensors, and no bulky mirror box - just a small body containing a circuit board with the sensor, processor, storage, servo mechanism for the in-lense AF motors, a big LCD on the back, controls, and a battery.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2008, 01:47:41 AM »
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sounds like a Leica 8.2 killer if you asked me
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2008, 04:40:29 AM »
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sounds like a Leica 8.2 killer if you asked me
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Didn't the M8.2 kill, itself ^^ ?
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2008, 07:58:29 AM »
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As long as we're having a little fun here, I'm thinking a simple, hi-rez, electronic viewfinder using live view off the sensor, as well as contrast-based AF and metering off the sensor. No expensive mirror mechanism or pentaprism, no seperate AF and metering sensors, and no bulky mirror box - just a small body containing a circuit board with the sensor, processor, storage, servo mechanism for the in-lense AF motors, a big LCD on the back, controls, and a battery.
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Mort, I think your right on the numbers. Add in a touch screen on the rear lcd for focal point and you've got the perfect camera, my opinion.

The thing that makes this work is large chips and I understand the kinks and costs are somewhat worked out in silicon stitching.

It would be more like a modern day press camera. Think Graflex/Technika with out thinking upside down, rev L-R.

The new term is "EVIL"  Electronic Viewfinder Interchangable Lenses

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 10:31:53 AM »
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I just want nikon to make a new 85mm f/1.4
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