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« on: September 23, 2008, 10:22:26 AM »
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For the Hy6 users, F&H are announcing :
- 6060 film magazine
- AF Apogon 120mm HTF
- Prism viewfinder
- Remote release
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 03:42:45 PM »
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Do you have more details?
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 04:20:51 PM »
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Has anyone seen or used the remote control yet? I use the 6008 remote every time I shoot a static subject, especially the mirror lock up feature.

Does the Hy6 remote offer MLU as well? Hard to see much in this photo:

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 04:48:25 PM »
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I managed to take a few frames with the new 120 AFD and it is very very good from what I saw.

And yes the new cable release does MLU.

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2008, 04:59:07 PM »
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Thanks, Yair.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2008, 05:13:55 PM »
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Delivery dates for the 90% viewer?
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2008, 12:08:25 AM »
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I don't know about that little cable release, but that Rolleiflex is a pretty camera.

Still, why can't they make the whole thing black?

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2008, 12:13:48 AM »
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James,
the two tone look is actually o.k in real life.
A lot nicer than the Hassy H series two tone.

However the Hy6 in totally black would be nice as well.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2008, 12:55:41 AM »
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In my opinion the all black Rolleiflex looks a lot better than two-tone Leaf and Sinar cameras.
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Edit: I just noticed the WLF in the Rolleiflex is slightly grayed out. Come on Rollei, show'em how to dress a camera. Paint it black too. Don't you know black is the "in" color for this fall?

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James,
the two tone look is actually o.k in real life.
A lot nicer than the Hassy H series two tone.

However the Hy6 in totally black would be nice as well.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 01:01:17 AM »
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In my opinion the all black Rolleiflex looks a lot better than two-tone Leaf and Sinar cameras.
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Edit: I just noticed the WLF in the Rolleiflex is slightly grayed out. Come on Rollei, show'em how to dress a camera. Paint it black too.
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All 3 cameras carry the exact same two tone colour scheme.

Yair
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 01:04:24 AM »
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All 3 cameras carry the exact same two tone colour scheme.

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Yair,

Tell em to stop that.

JR
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2008, 01:07:25 AM »
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Really? I was under the impression the Rolleiflex was "blacker"
Beautiful cameras anyway. They are my obi-wans.
Eduardo

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 01:23:39 AM »
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Well the one they sell at KurlandPhoto is black...  

Ebay item:  270276727485

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2008, 01:25:08 AM »
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Really? I was under the impression the Rolleiflex was "blacker"
Beautiful cameras anyway. They are my obi-wans.
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That Rolleiflex is the strength of the Leaf, that and the fact that under the right conditions and processed in pscs, the leaf file looks really film like.

With my A-22 I never shot it under 200 iso, (well maybe just once) and I loved the look.

In my humble opinion the only problem with leaf (and this holds true for many of the medium format makers)  is they need to show some props to past customers.

The new AFI 10 will have an lcd that works when tethering.  Good, it's about time, becuase when you need to see it both on the computer and the camera, you really need it.

The downside is Leaf has known they need this feature forever and the only way to get it is an expensive upgrade to a new back.

Leaf would do themselves a world of good in the PR department if they made that retroactive to past customers for a low cost upgrade.  I don't believe it would hurt future sales and if anything go a long way to showing some good will to past customers, many that have been loyal through the very trying LC10 trial period.

Actually, a lot of us that buy into the expensive digital world seem somewhat caught out, by well intentioned but somewhat failed promises.  Promised "workable" wi-fi, (leaf and phase), high clean iso at 800 to 1600 iso (all of the back makers) and many missed software deadlines.

(Let's don't even mention the big, bight and detailed lcds)

Let's be realistic.  These cameras are damn expensive and though many of us can afford them and afford to upgrade, we also can use that money to move our business forward in other areas, especially in today's financial climate.

So to me, the company that gets my next purchase is the one that shows some extreme good will and goes the extra step.  

This is probably going to fall on deaf ears as during photokina everyone is talking about new stuff without a lot of mention of old stuff, but the makers should remember it's the buyers of the old stuff that kept the companies in a position to offer the new.

Nobody is asking for anything free, or a perpeptual low cost upgrade but I think all the manufacturers shoudl print out their sales pdfs, e-mail blasts, road maps of the last three years and yellow pencil the promises that only came 1/2 true or in some instances not at all.

Go back, get those right for the customers that invested in the products and I'd bet you would have a customer for life.

JR
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 02:31:55 AM »
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Bright orange, fluo green for factory-donated cameras please. So that when we see James with his future Leaf we know that *he* is a photographer

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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 03:36:16 AM »
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I was yesterday at the Photokina ...
of F & H was standing with a tape off, but nobody was in front
by the news was nothing to see (a pity)
I believe in a rear showcase was the cable release but without description
and gone over to see for details
only wonder why F & H have a stand there ...

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 04:18:48 AM »
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The more AF lenses the better for the adoption of the Hy6/AFI platform.

According to Thierry at another forum, the AF 120mm is NOT a macro
whereas the manual-focus 120mm is.  Is this correct?
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 06:54:50 AM »
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..........Still, why can't they make the whole thing black?

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Few years back I was in Paris w/my H1 - needed a small repair - went to a studio & they had a Hasselblad H series in Japanese/Fuji version which was completely black. No chrome, I thought it looked cool, I was going to swap mine w/fujiBlad till I found out that being Fuji version, the warranty won't be honoured in States, but EU is fine.
   May be you can get one in Europe, though I realize you don't like Hassey...so just FYI.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 10:18:17 AM »
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I was yesterday at the Photokina ...
of F & H was standing with a tape off, but nobody was in front
by the news was nothing to see (a pity)
I believe in a rear showcase was the cable release but without description
and gone over to see for details
only wonder why F & H have a stand there ...

Adina
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I really wonder why these trades shows exist because it doesn't seem like anything annouced can be bought within a definate date.  

Maybe it's like some insurance convention it's just an excuse to play soccer and party late into the night.

I'm sure we will see a few Viking hat videos soon.

I've only been to Photo East in NY once for about 15 minutes, Photo West in LA once (for about 5 minutes)  and both times I realized it really wasn't a place for photographers to meet, but was geared more towards photographic sales people.  

Kind of the ultimate Shriner convention, minus the little motorcycles and cone head hats.

Still, I look at all of these annoucements and it's pretty much the same stuff in different wrappers, with not one even semi pretty photograph shot with any of these new cameras.

The Leica doesn't surprise me, or wow me, in fact I kind of wonder what it or any of this will do that I can't do already.

I guess the word evolution is correct, though all of these evolutions costs serious money.

The Phase finally has a right angle grip and some new lenses and I kind of think that's interesting until I realize my Contax has all of that, is paid for and is 1/3 the price of the phamamiya.

The only difference is I can buy a right angle grip for the Contax today and I wonder how long before one hits the shelves in medium format land.

For the photographer probably the best part of Photokina is all of these "upgrades" will drive the currrent prices down, so in a month or so it probably is a good time to pick up an A-22 or a P-45.

Look at the Hasselblad announcement.  Obviously there was some extra margins in those prices if they can cut them 40%.

JR
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