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« on: September 25, 2008, 04:55:01 PM »
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First of all my apologies for not being able to report daily and with details: times are very busy and I have found time only this evening to get online.

For those interested, here some snapshots taken during the first 3 days at our booth at the Photokina in Cologne, DE.

- general views of the Sinar booth
- details of the new Digaron 5.6/23mm and the new Schneider 150mm AF PQS
- new 90° prism finder on Sinar Hy6 65

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 05:38:28 PM »
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First of all my apologies for not being able to report daily and with details: times are very busy and I have found time only this evening to get online.

For those interested, here some snapshots taken during the first 3 days at our booth at the Photokina in Cologne, DE.

- general views of the Sinar booth
- details of the new Digaron 5.6/23mm and the new Schneider 150mm AF PQS
- new 90° prism finder on Sinar Hy6 65

Thierry
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Thierry, you owe me a beer. I plan to come and collect. Soon. Very soon.

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 05:42:23 PM »
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I never forget a promise!

Tomorrow would be fine for me.

in the meantime: cheers!
Thierry

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Thierry, you owe me a beer. I plan to come and collect. Soon. Very soon.

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 06:50:49 PM »
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I never forget a promise!

Tomorrow would be fine for me.

in the meantime: cheers!
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Nice camera .. BUT those Briese Parabolic Umbrellas hanging around everywhere make me drewl!!!!!:+}
Nice!! and the camera looks ok too..
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 07:14:23 PM »
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Thanks for posting, but... where are the Swiss gnomes? I was imagining something more like this:

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 09:09:04 PM »
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First of all my apologies for not being able to report daily and with details: times are very busy and I have found time only this evening to get online.

For those interested, here some snapshots taken during the first 3 days at our booth at the Photokina in Cologne, DE.

- general views of the Sinar booth
- details of the new Digaron 5.6/23mm and the new Schneider 150mm AF PQS
- new 90° prism finder on Sinar Hy6 65

Thierry
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How much for that AF 150/4 PQS?? I can't find one of those anywhere!
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 02:18:54 AM »
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you imagine right, but that happens only in the local beerstubs here in Cologne, in the evenings (nights) after the exhibition!
 

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Thanks for posting, but... where are the Swiss gnomes? I was imagining something more like this:


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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 02:35:23 AM »
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you imagine right, but that happens only in the local beerstubs here in Cologne, in the evenings (nights) after the exhibition!
 

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Thierry, where's your mug shot in the pictures you posted above? nice to see who we're talking to  
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 02:47:09 AM »
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I can't help but notice the irony of Sinar using the Briese Focus Reflector , considering the Sinar-Broncolor relationship and the Briese-Broncolor fracas.

What gives?
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 03:44:13 AM »
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Thierry,

 Coffee or soft drinks only at the Sinar booth ? I am deeply disappointed.



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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 08:25:44 AM »
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The stand of Sinar at the Photokina what so little that it was nothing to see, excepts the new models. No 4/5 or 8/10, no Sinar m HR28..., no DB shutters, no film holders, no CMV, CAB or Sinaron digital lenses to see anyway.

A very poor and strange demonstration.

But there was - of course - an asiatic model to make a very conventional show. Like Hasselblad, or Canon, Nikon, Olympus, etc... Like an autoshow in Tokyo. A very good period for the asiatic look.

For me, the Photokina should be the best place to see all the professional products, because local dealers (when they exist) can't have this products in stock.

My deception is deep.

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 08:29:46 AM »
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There was a HR 28 on Sinar m ! Sorry.

But, where was all the rest ?

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 08:33:06 AM »
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There was a HR 28 on Sinar m ! Sorry.

But, where was all the rest ?

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havent you seen the artec, the 23mm lens, exposure with white shading , the hy accessories, new lenses, the spirit back, ME , and so on?
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 01:22:12 PM »
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havent you seen the artec, the 23mm lens, exposure with white shading , the hy accessories, new lenses, the spirit back, ME , and so on?
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Of course I did, and with happyness !

But some absences (blackouts ?) are unbelievable...

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2008, 03:00:22 AM »
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Philippe,

There was (and still is) following products displayed and shown in live situations:

- Sinar arTec with eMotion 75 back and VHR 5.6/23mm

- Sinar arTec with eMotion 75 back and Sinaron Digital 70mm

- Sinar m with Sinaron Digital HR 28mm

- Sinar p3 with Schneider shutter and lens, LC-shutter, sliding adapter and multishot back eVolution 75 H

- Sinar Hy6 65 camera system with 180 AFD lens and 90° prism finder

- Sinar Hy6 with Sinarback eSprit 65, 80mm AFD lens and waist level finder

- Sinar Hy6 with Sinarback eMotion 75 LV, 150mm AF lens and 45° finder

- Sinar Hy6 with Sinarback eSprit 65 in LIVE-SHOOTING with all Hy6 lenses and accessories

- Sinar calibrated DNG Workflow, from shooting to print

- 2 stations with Sinar eXposure 6.1 capture software for Mac

- 1 station with Sinar eXposure 6.1 capture software for Windows

Where is the problem?!

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Thierry

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There was a HR 28 on Sinar m ! Sorry.

But, where was all the rest ?

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2008, 06:50:28 AM »
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I would not to be involved in controversy.

I prefer to stop my interventions in this topic, because I would'nt be sarcastic.

Please excuse me, Thierry, when I'm too vindictive.

"Qui aime bien, châtie bien !"

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 12:11:35 PM »
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as you say, EPd, your opinion. And actually only a question of taste nothing worse to be argued and discussed, IMO.

I would rather like to argue your ""Sinar had a very limited selection of lenses for the Hy6": you must be joking (or blind). We had all the available (new) selection of lenses for the Hy6 (AF, non-AF, AFD) on display, behind the setups. The lenses selected for the setups were the newest AFD's and the new 150 AF, and it was possible to ask the demonstrators to test another focal length.

As for accessories, they were all on the cameras, including the 90° finder.

A pity that you have not introduced yourself to me or ask to meet me. It would have been a plaisure to show you around.

 

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I was a bit disappointed with the Sinar presentation as well. Not so much because of "missing" equipment, but the design of the playground did not "embrace" me at all. Especially the closed "office" in the back, with the darkened windows gave a rather "unheimisch" feeling. Like you had to climb up to a dark castle which wasn't going to open its gates. The lighting of the entire place was very poor too (dim and yellow), especially that Hy6 corner with the miniature boat. And speaking Hy6: Leaf had all available lenses for the AFi and a lot of accessories on display, whereas Sinar only had a (very) limited selection. Not inviting at all. The arTec corner was a bit better though, with a good setup to have a look at the camera and getting explanation at the same time. The only thing I was missing there was a good opportunity to get to see the camera from the front before you got there. It would have been nice to place one high up behind the demonstrators as well. Just my personal opinion of course.
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 03:18:08 PM »
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EPd,

sorry about that and for not having been available: you should/could have asked for me.

You are right, concerning the booth and improvements: we actually collect all remarks, internal or from visitors, and discuss them for the next exhibition. But so far we have got a majority of positive response to the atmosphere part of it. So that's why I say it's a question of taste, not to sy that I don't bother about other tastes.

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I have been hanging around there for quite some time, but you were in deep conversation with someone, so I moved on after having seen ALL that there was to see. Yes, I saw the lenses in the back displays too, but did you see what Leaf had in their booth? Bellows, macro rings, more lenses (also older types). My impressions of the athmosphere are about taste, naturally, but when I go to see a movie in a theatre and I don't like it, does the film maker have to say: "that's his problem"? Or could he perhaps give it a second thought and try to analyse what could have been improved to his film? For the next time, maybe.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2008, 03:57:24 PM »
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EPd,

sorry about that and for not having been available: you should/could have asked for me.

You are right, concerning the booth and improvements: we actually collect all remarks, internal or from visitors, and discuss them for the next exhibition. But so far we have got a majority of positive response to the atmosphere part of it. So that's why I say it's a question of taste, not to sy that I don't bother about other tastes.

Best regards,
Thierry


Hello, Thierry! If you do not mind I have some questions:

 I do not see the Evolution back in your listing. Did Sinar not have shown that one? Maybe because it is still not working properly and they still did not manage to establish Exposure support for the 75H??  


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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2008, 05:36:36 PM »
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Hi all,
I think that Sinar booth was nice. I saw everything that i want to see. I don;t hear all the time " PERFECTLY " for answer to my questions. On Phase booth i hear it all the time. Another thing, they show me everything what i want to see and tell me about everything. Big P like PRO. ( I was working on Hasselblad booth during fairs) Leaf and Phase guys don't want to talk about theirs product. It was a little bit strange. On Sinar booth you could also met and talk with Mr. Briese about theirs lamps. And of corse see this nice equipment in action. So it was very nice place, where we could see everything and be informed about everything.


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