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« on: September 27, 2008, 01:46:05 PM »
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I know about Profoto's Pro8 and Broncolor's Scoro power packs,
but was there any other new lighting equipment from Kino Flo (Kelvin Tile),
Dedolight, Briese, etc.?

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 01:50:19 PM »
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A new version of the Elinchrom Ranger, the Quanta. About 3Kg's in total. Asysmmetrical 2 outlets. 400ws in total with very short flash duration. very cute.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 01:56:05 PM »
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I don't know if they are showing them, but profoto has a new line of parbolic umbrellas which cost almost as much as medium format cameras.

They look good though and paras are the new beauty dish, which was the new ring flash, which was the new frensel, which was. . . .

JR
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 02:24:24 PM »
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Hensel came out with the first lithium ion battery powered packs.
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Terrific, John.
Would you post a link?
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 02:34:19 PM »
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I know about Profoto's Pro8 and Broncolor's Scoro power packs,
but was there any other new lighting equipment from Kino Flo (Kelvin Tile),
Dedolight, Briese, etc.?

Thanks in advance.
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[a href=\"http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=27896&st=0&p=221277&#entry221277]http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....77&#entry221277[/url]

http://henselusa.blogspot.com/2008/09/phot...ty-lithium.html

http://www.hensel.eu/HENSEL%20IMAGE%20MOVIE/79-en.html  Flash presentation
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 04:20:13 PM »
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I don't know if they are showing them, but profoto has a new line of parbolic umbrellas which cost almost as much as medium format cameras.

JR
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Considering all these braking news I decided to peacefully invest in few Profoto parbolic umbrellas...
and give Cameras/Lenses/DBs a rest for a while

Received the 6' parbolic umbrella three weeks ago which is excellent... waiting for 10' mid October... can't complain, except the price is high... Profoto Para umbrellas to my surprise actually cost more than Boncolor!
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 11:59:38 PM »
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Considering all these braking news I decided to peacefully invest in few Profoto parbolic umbrellas...
and give Cameras/Lenses/DBs a rest for a while

Received the 6' parbolic umbrella three weeks ago which is excellent... waiting for 10' mid October... can't complain, except the price is high... Profoto Para umbrellas to my surprise actually cost more than Boncolor!
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How do you like the 6'?  Compared to Bron and Briese?

Thanks,

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2008, 06:45:38 AM »
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info and prices here as well as Hensel's own sites
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...cid=7-9316-9649
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Kudos / Props to Hensel for beating the big boys to the punch with Lithium-Ion.
Hopefully, Broncolor & Profoto will follow suit sooner than later.
And yes, being able to work off AC/mains when available would be great.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2008, 10:09:30 AM »
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What's the benefit of using these umbrellas instead of the beauty dish, ring flash etc?
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I don't know if they are showing them, but profoto has a new line of parbolic umbrellas which cost almost as much as medium format cameras.

They look good though and paras are the new beauty dish, which was the new ring flash, which was the new frensel, which was. . . .

JR
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2008, 12:25:02 PM »
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Without going in to many details you'll find Profoto and Bronocolor paras are pretty much the same including the price too... so I can't say
I like one or the other better, I own both....

Can't talk about Briese, from what I've seen... they look good!!! There is so much specialized lighting pieces that I like and am looking to buy... but as far as industry standard, all will do the trick...
I just happen to have faith in Broncolor and Profoto!

I loved Broncolor personally for different reasons studio etc. and with Profoto mobility etc.

However, now with Profoto you can have the best of both, Studio & Location... again you can have equivalent with Broncolor too, but it gets heavier with those versos etc. although I like the docks... and the way they're build! I wish profoto would do something similar in their fashion!

One minor thing, probably not as improtant to others is colors... Broncolor looks very attractive to begin with but after a while
just looks aged or like a fashion from the 80'   similar to colors of Hy6... this is why I wish SINAR, ROLLEI and LEAF would change it to black a.s.a.p

I personally prefer Black.... if I could, I would even paint my ARRI lights in black too  

PS: I am looking in to using Pro ring flash with Profoto Parabolic umbrellas, so we'll see how that goes...
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2008, 12:41:09 PM »
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What's the benefit of using these umbrellas instead of the beauty dish, ring flash etc?
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You get a large but direct lightsource.   Kind of like the world's largest frensel that focuses.

For most instances it makes no difference between the large paras and other large umbrellas of soft light fixtures, except when you need that focused look with deeper shadows.

Given  the shape (amount of degree) they also allow you to keep the light directed where you want them i.e  off the background and focus more on the subject.

Brieze made paras all the rage for beauty and fashion and because they were so exepensive probably set the price standard, (think medium format).  

There are some other makes from china that are knockoffs, though I know nothing about the quality of them.

Anyway, these are the prices from a profoto dealer in LA, which are just standard list for the profotos.  It wasn't clear of the size of the fixture.

180 degree $5949.00
240 degree $8765.00
300 degree $11449.00

JR
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2008, 03:01:36 PM »
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?

(Couldn't find anything on their website)

Are they available for rent and where?
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2008, 03:27:57 PM »
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You get a large but direct lightsource.   Kind of like the world's largest frensel that focuses.

For most instances it makes no difference between the large paras and other large umbrellas of soft light fixtures, except when you need that focused look with deeper shadows.

Given  the shape (amount of degree) they also allow you to keep the light directed where you want them i.e  off the background and focus more on the subject.

Brieze made paras all the rage for beauty and fashion and because they were so exepensive probably set the price standard, (think medium format).   

There are some other makes from china that are knockoffs, though I know nothing about the quality of them.

Anyway, these are the prices from a profoto dealer in LA, which are just standard list for the profotos.  It wasn't clear of the size of the fixture.

180 degree $5949.00
240 degree $8765.00
300 degree $11449.00

JR
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Gidday,

I think this is the link to the Asian knockoffs.

[a href=\"http://www.falconeyes.com.hk/diyhp/12224/enus/newprod/p-AAAV+EAAVAAAOPlAAG/EXTENDABLE_SOFTBOX.html]http://www.falconeyes.com.hk/diyhp/12224/e...LE_SOFTBOX.html[/url]

Cheers

Simon
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2008, 03:39:26 PM »
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?

(Couldn't find anything on their website)

Are they available for rent and where?
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Pier 59 Studios in NYC.

The small Briese, like 77cm, is awesome.  They have a full range of HMI.  If we have a big budget for lighting I light music videos with big and small Briese.  Bron gives a similar yet different look.  There is something almost powdery with the quality of the Briese lights.  Something to do with teh coatings.

You can fake these looks with silks, fresnels, and grid on the silk(s).  It aint easy and takes lots of lights and lots of immobile rigging.  My back hurts just thinking about it.

Unless these things are an integral part of your look, its best to rent when needed.

I am experimenting with making a focusing adapter to focus light with the Elinchrom Deep Throat Octa (great concept, badly executed).  I figure if if I could move the head around inside the octa I could get light similar to the small Briese.  

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2008, 03:57:29 PM »
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?

(Couldn't find anything on their website)

Are they available for rent and where?
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Briese Lighting USA
401 West Street
New York, NY 10014
(212) 414-9596
www.brieseusa.com

oddly though the site redirects to some weird ebay store though.....so i dunno.
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Briese Lighting USA
401 West Street
New York, NY 10014
(212) 414-9596
www.brieseusa.com

oddly though the site redirects to some weird ebay store though.....so i dunno.
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wrong wrong wrong and a big mess happened with them in the past, don't buy anything from them


correct info here:

[a href=\"http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html]http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html[/url]
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2008, 04:39:21 PM »
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(Couldn't find anything on their website)

Are they available for rent and where?
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look here:

[a href=\"http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html]http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html[/url]
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2008, 05:03:57 PM »
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Pier 59 Studios in NYC.

The small Briese, like 77cm, is awesome.  They have a full range of HMI.   

T
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As I said before I am looking to invest in unique/specialized lighting pieces and I would love to buy a pair of Briese focus 77 S, I assume it's compatible with both Flash & HMI...? I haven't seen similar umbrella/product from any other company...

Any combo/configuration flash and HMI you have in mind to go in tandem with pair of focus 77 S?

I can't find the prices on net, it seems like not many stores carry them.


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Briese Lighting USA
401 West Street
New York, NY 10014
(212) 414-9596
www.brieseusa.com

oddly though the site redirects to some weird ebay store though.....so i dunno.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=225293\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Brady, www.brieseusa.com will lead you to some guy selling semi precious stones.... so you are right it's not Briese USA  for sure!
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2008, 05:05:19 PM »
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look here:

http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html
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Danielle Inc.
Carmen Fiumefreddo
1275 Bloomfields Avenue
Building 8, Unit 68
Fairfield, NJ 07004
USA

Tel.: 001-973-244 96 62
Fax: 001-973-244 98 17

carmenf@danielleinc.us  


I will give them a call tomorow and we'll see what happens...
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2008, 05:16:58 PM »
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?

(Couldn't find anything on their website)

Are they available for rent and where?
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I know this doesn't help you much since it's in UK, perhaps you can call and find out a bit more...

Anyway I'll give them a call tomorrow to see what's going on with US Distributors...

CONTACT:

Sales and Rental
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M    +44(0)7966 430985
solalights@mac.com
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