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jvora
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« on: October 14, 2008, 04:53:48 PM »
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Hello All :

What's the verdict on using Glossy Glass Screens for image color correction and post production ? How much does the reflection interfere while working on images ? Also the color seems rather saturated and it may prove vastly different that how Mat Screens resolve color !

I have found the Mat Screens do perform pretty well - Wonder about the Glossy.

I am surprised that Apple now does not provide an option for either the MacBook Pro to gain Mat Screens nor for the Cinema Displays !

Would like to hear from people who have experience with this issue.

Personally, I feel this might not be the correct move by Apple - Hope I am wrong !


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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 04:57:51 PM »
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I like the glossy screens a great deal, but you have to be careful about reflections from lights behind you. If you can control these added dynamic range is worthwhile.

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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 06:54:00 PM »
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The 17" MacBook Pro only received some minor upgrades and is still available with matte screen as an option.
The new LED 24" Apple Cinema Display is not marketed for professionals and is only compatible with the MacBook or the new 15" MacBook Pro with mini DVI video port. It does not have a traditional DVI or VGA connection.  The matte screen Apple Cinema Displays are still available in 20", 23" and 30".  I am hoping Apple will debut a new professional line of Cinema Displays soon.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 07:01:56 PM »
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I am hoping Apple will debut a new professional line of Cinema Displays soon.

Why hope? They've never had a professional display.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 08:24:52 PM »
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I was quite skeptical about glossy displays but my experience (Macbook Air) has been much better than I expected. In some ways it's quite hard to go back to a tradition LCD display. When I am out and about I really apreaciate that I don't need to wait 30 minutes for the LED's to properly warm up.

My wife's 24" iMac is also good. You have to take a bit more care over positioning and calibration. It's placed in front of a window rather than behind and this works very well.

Of the two the Mac Book Air's display is better with glare. The LED backlighting solves a lot of the glare issues.

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 12:35:33 AM »
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I hate Glossy displays to be honest. Even more, I hate glossy displays on laptops where it is certain you can't control reflections all the time. What about using them outside on location?

With regards to the new LED display, doesn't Apple provide an optional  mini-DVI to full-DVI adapter? If yes, wouldn't this make the display compatible with older Macs?

EDIT: I guess not since this adapter is used to connect a full-DVI display to a mini-DVI computer and not vice versa?
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 12:24:09 PM »
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What about using them outside on location?

The LED on my MBA is better outside than my old PB and MBP with matte screens to be honest. It's brighter so can overpower the sunlight very well.

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EDIT: I guess not since this adapter is used to connect a full-DVI display to a mini-DVI computer and not vice versa?

It's different technology. Apparently you can hook up the new Macbooks to DVI or D-SUB VGA monitors but not the other way round. I looked at the transcript and Steve Jobs said all new Macs would have the new connector. It can also carry audio signals btw.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 11:42:48 PM »
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The LED on my MBA is better outside than my old PB and MBP with matte screens to be honest. It's brighter so can overpower the sunlight very well.

I'm not questioning the LED technology you know. LED with matte would have been better regarding combating reflections and glare, don't you agree? And when one is inside but not in a darkened colour correction room, one would hate having to boost brightness up just to be able to overcome reflections that wouldn't be there in the first place if it had a matte screen.


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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 09:46:52 AM »
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I'm not questioning the LED technology you know. LED with matte would have been better regarding combating reflections and glare, don't you agree?

I've not given it much thought and I can't see myself doing so tbh. The only option is a glossy display or switching to a Windows machine; which isn't going to happen.


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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 05:36:38 PM »
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As I understand it, being able to view a higher dynamic range on screen is only a "creature comfort" - even standard matte displays have a much greater gamut than can be displayed on any print.  The new glossy displays only exacerbate that issue.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 12:58:10 AM »
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As I understand it, being able to view a higher dynamic range on screen is only a "creature comfort" - even standard matte displays have a much greater gamut than can be displayed on any print.  The new glossy displays only exacerbate that issue.

Dynamic range is different than gamut. As far as I understand it most (if not all) displays can display a far smaller gamut than high-end inkjet prints but a higher dynamic range.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 02:17:31 AM »
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Dynamic range is different than gamut. As far as I understand it most (if not all) displays can display a far smaller gamut than high-end inkjet prints but a higher dynamic range.

Dynamic range is an aspect of gamut. Displays have gamuts that are generally larger than printers gamuts (in dE^3), but they "grow in opposite directions", so you basically need a really huge monitor gamut to cover the relatively small gamut of a printer.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 10:35:06 PM »
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I like the glossy screens a great deal, but you have to be careful about reflections from lights behind you. If you can control these added dynamic range is worthwhile.

Michael


You like them - does that mean  you don't have any trouble calibrating them?
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 01:05:17 AM »
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You like them - does that mean  you don't have any trouble calibrating them?

I've had a glossy screen for two years and love it. Better DR and color. I haven't had any problem calibrating it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 03:59:46 PM »
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I've had a glossy screen for two years and love it. Better DR and color. I haven't had any problem calibrating it.

I have been against glossy displays so far, but when I read about the increased dynamic range I am reconsidering.

After all, even with a matte display I have to pull the shades or I won't be able to properly adjust images.


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