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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2008, 03:24:24 AM »
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I agree exactly with what you're saying......

Im gonna try this Raw Developper you speak of....the trial version is available for download.....I'll let you know what I think
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2008, 08:31:45 AM »
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NX2 is a real gem once you have learned how to use the U-Points as a way to mask curves adjustment layers...

Any idea why the U-Points are restricted to having a circular area of influence? There are many images whereby a rectangle and ideally a user-definable shape would be far more beneficial.

It is easy to get good results on this software, but image management falls a long way short of something like LR and Aperture.
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2008, 08:38:26 AM »
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Any idea why the U-Points are restricted to having a circular area of influence? There are many images whereby a rectangle and ideally a user-definable shape would be far more beneficial.
that is annoying actually as it all starts to affect colours you dont want to touch etc but thats the way it is for now...unless anyone knows something I don't. A user definable shape is like what you have in Photoshop etc so it defeats the purpose of doing it so fast and easily....

It is easy to get good results on this software, but image management falls a long way short of something like LR and Aperture.
yeah....Lightroom with Nikon Capture NX2 image quality is what I want.....sure, they upgraded the DNG profiles and you bet BETTER colour as I said but Im still going to Capture to get the best colour no matter what anyone says.....in my opinion....

its a joke we have to pay to use it though.....if you have a Nikon then you should get Capture NX free....but this from people with $8,000 for thre D3x so....I aint holding my breath.....they'll bundle it with the D700 and others now and again to convince you of what a great deal you have
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2008, 08:42:42 AM »
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NX2 is a real gem once you have learned how to use the U-Points as a way to mask curves adjustment layers...
can you explain this please?!
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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2008, 12:49:38 PM »
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Any idea why the U-Points are restricted to having a circular area of influence? There are many images whereby a rectangle and ideally a user-definable shape would be far more beneficial.
The control points seem to use a selection algorithm that applies adjustments to areas in varying opacity depending on the similarity of tone and color to the selected point and also depending on the distance from the selected point.  So the selection (which can be seen with the show mask command) fades as the distance from the control point increases.  You can easily modify the area affected by a control point by using the various selection tools such as the lasso, rectangular marquee, brush and gradient tools.
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NX2 is a real gem once you have learned how to use the U-Points as a way to mask curves adjustment layers...
can you explain this please?!
Apply an adjustment with curves (or whatever) which will affect the entire image.  Then use the Selection Control Point tool to limit the effect.
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2008, 04:44:45 PM »
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Any idea why the U-Points are restricted to having a circular area of influence? There are many images whereby a rectangle and ideally a user-definable shape would be far more beneficial.

Well, I guess that they have stitcked to circles for the sake of simplicity, but you are correct, it would be good to be able to generate other shapes also.

As you probably know though, it is possible to substract one U-Point from another in order to avoid impacting one smaller area that would have been impacted by the main U-Point.

The main case where a non circular U-Point would be helpful is obviously sky like modifications. Since you end up covering the whole image with a sky U-Point, and this tends to affect blues in the lower part of the image as well.

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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2008, 12:21:17 AM »
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You can easily modify the area affected by a control point by using the various selection tools such as the lasso, rectangular marquee, brush and gradient tools.
 Apply an adjustment with curves (or whatever) which will affect the entire image.  Then use the Selection Control Point tool to limit the effect.

True indeed, but that adds one step. The ability to select from the onset the shape of the area covered by the U-Point would be a welcome feature IMHO.

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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2008, 10:31:32 AM »
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actually....im still using it in trial mode.....when you buy it how many activations do you get....is it unlimited, as it should be...cos i for one have 3 computers i use in different locations.....what im looking for is unlimited activations for both Mac and PC versions cos i have to activate in 3 Macs and one laptop PC.....
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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2008, 11:54:26 AM »
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I think that there is no problem using NX2 on both Mac and PC.  I switched from PC to Mac and was able to simply enter my existing un-lock code numbers into the Mac version.  Photoshop makes you get a new license so you can't have Mac and PC at the same time on the same license.  The license for NX2 is limited to two computers.
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2008, 12:13:43 PM »
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I think that there is no problem using NX2 on both Mac and PC.  I switched from PC to Mac and was able to simply enter my existing un-lock code numbers into the Mac version.  Photoshop makes you get a new license so you can't have Mac and PC at the same time on the same license.  The license for NX2 is limited to two computers.
cool...that answers my question.....two activations then.....
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2009, 11:15:21 AM »
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I just finished the first of three DVDs by Vincent Versace on NX2, what he calls Pixel Bootcamp 2.0, Unleashing the Raw Power of NX2.

Anyone who uses NX2 as a raw converter MUST see the video. It just blew me away. Worth every penny. Vincent does a great job explaing the nuances of the software.
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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2009, 02:19:42 PM »
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NX2 is a real gem once you have learned how to use the U-Points as a way to mask curves adjustment layers... it really is much faster than PS, and all these modifications have less impact since they are applied before raw conversion.

I still prefer PS mask approach for final tuning, but NX2 allows you to get quickly a start point of very high quality.

Detail is good, but probably still not quite as good as Raw Developper or C-1 4.1.

Cheers,
Bernard

+1  Comparing NX2 to C1 4.6, C1 produced more detail in my D3 files.  I have not messed around with U-Pts in conjunction with curve adjustments, guess I need to give it a try.  Thanks
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2009, 05:45:14 PM »
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Moreover, I am using NX2 with the full version of Color EFEX Pro 3. This plug-in fully integrates with NX2 and yield superb results. I use NX2 99% of the time.
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2009, 06:01:50 AM »
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Hi there  Im just getting to know CaptureNX2 (after one year of total failure in producing the result I want) and know I finally have understood that the workflow is totally different in NX2 then in the latest ACR.

You who clame you get more details out of the nef-files in ACR must be talking about shadow detail not micro-detail because there NX2 is waaay ahead when it comes to rendering fine detail like hair asf. And when you learn, as I just did, how to use control points there is no shadow-problem any more and no looking back to ACR

Now to my problem, how do you change the default setting of 255 and 0 in the white and black point? Im still exporting images to photoshop because I have to manually change this everytime i open a new image in NX2..

Thankyou.
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2009, 07:54:10 AM »
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isn't that in the Levels preference?  It is for me in v2.2
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2009, 06:34:27 PM »
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Quote from: BernardLanguillier
NX2 is a real gem once you have learned how to use the U-Points as a way to mask curves adjustment layers... it really is much faster than PS, and all these modifications have less impact since they are applied before raw conversion.

I still prefer PS mask approach for final tuning, but NX2 allows you to get quickly a start point of very high quality.

Detail is good, but probably still not quite as good as Raw Developper or C-1 4.1.

Cheers,
Bernard

+1 on CO1.  It brings out more shadow detail and NX2 or LR2.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2009, 07:02:30 AM »
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isn't that in the Levels preference?  It is for me in v2.2

Hi! Thankyou, I found it!  I also found where I can change the default Nikon Adobe Colour space to just Adobe RGB (1998)..

And now I have another problem.. The settings are all back to default when I start CNX2.2 again.. how do I save my settings as default?

Thankyou!
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2009, 07:57:58 AM »
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On my Mac, the change in preferences/levels, sticks across NX2 restarts w/o any additional 'save settings'.  Maybe a PC thing  

speaking of color spaces, can someone explain the technical and usable/realworld differences between the std. aRGB space and the Nikon aRGB in NX2 ?
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2009, 09:46:32 AM »
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On my Mac, the change in preferences/levels, sticks across NX2 restarts w/o any additional 'save settings'.  Maybe a PC thing  

speaking of color spaces, can someone explain the technical and usable/realworld differences between the std. aRGB space and the Nikon aRGB in NX2 ?

My understanding is that there is no real difference except for the name. You might check here http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/n...-adobe-rgb.html.
As far as saving the setting in Capture NX goes, it should save after you select it in preferences and you shouldn't have to do it again on restart. However, I have found that mine will occasionally rest itself partially or fully on restart (Mac). I am to the point that I just expect these sort of bugs as normal with Nikon software.
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2009, 04:05:32 AM »
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+1 on CO1.  It brings out more shadow detail and NX2 or LR2.

James R,

What do you mean with +1 on CO1?

I am working with both LR2.3 and NX2.2.1 to develop an understandign of both solutions.

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