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« on: December 24, 2008, 11:34:06 PM »
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There weren't many red leaves around Zion NP in the second week of November, but I found these along the Emerald Pools Trail.

Thanks for looking. -R
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2008, 11:56:45 PM »
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It's a nice composition and has potential for good color.  

But this version shows the color of the leaves better don't you think ?



and here is the original for comparison:



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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2008, 12:38:42 AM »
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Hi Alain,

Yeah, I'm having some trouble making photoshop and web images match. My monitor is profiled and prints seem to match, but my web images are muted. This one is especially flat, but even so, it could benefit from more vivid colors.

Thanks for the comment. -R
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 01:52:18 AM »
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Hi Alain,

Yeah, I'm having some trouble making photoshop and web images match. My monitor is profiled and prints seem to match, but my web images are muted. This one is especially flat, but even so, it could benefit from more vivid colors.

Thanks for the comment. -R

You are welcome.  Use "Save for Web" in Photoshop and click "convert to sRgb". That will do it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2008, 03:34:49 AM »
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It's getting there, but I'm after the Briot look, so I still have lots of experimenting to do. Thx -R

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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2008, 03:42:04 AM »
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It's getting there, but I'm after the Briot look, so I still have lots of experimenting to do. Thx -R

My guess would be that a round trip to the LAB parallel universe might help here...

Cheers,
Bernard

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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 05:04:54 AM »
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Bernard,

Do you mean that using the LAB color model would be helpful in achieving the open shadow and painterly quality reflected in some of Alain's work, or would a trip to the parallel LAB universe be for someone with a lot of photography and photoshop experience?

Thx -R

Tony Kuyper is another photographer from the southwest who seems to be able to achieve similar looking photographs. I especially like this photo from Tony:

http://www.goodlight.us/watchingthewind.html
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2008, 07:39:12 AM »
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Bernard,

Do you mean that using the LAB color model would be helpful in achieving the open shadow and painterly quality reflected in some of Alain's work, or would a trip to the parallel LAB universe be for someone with a lot of photography and photoshop experience?

The kind of saturation increase and improvement in color separation shown here is easy to achieve by applying steep curves to the A and B channels in LAB.

There are various ways to open up shadows that I am sure you know about.

Now, whether all that pertains to your own style or not is a totally different matter obviously.

Cheers,
Bernard
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2008, 10:27:28 AM »
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Personally I don't use LAB.  I shoot in Raw then convert to ProPhoto and stay there until I print, or save for the web.

Your image (the one on this thread) shows a lot of color and brightness clipping.  I tried to reduce that but I'm working backwards from a file that has lost a lot of information.  Try to reconvert it without clipping it will help the color a lot.

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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2008, 04:11:56 PM »
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Here's my latest version. I will continue to work on it, but for now, let me just say that I've thoroughly enjoyed the painless, yet constructive comments. Thx -R

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 01:27:40 PM »
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That's a nice take on the Emerald Pools. Most people (me included) try to get the pools in the composition, but these walls from where all the water comes from are very nice too, and the trees of course.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 02:07:47 PM »
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Here's my latest version. I will continue to work on it, but for now, let me just say that I've thoroughly enjoyed the painless, yet constructive comments. Thx -R

I think it's a lot better than your original, but (dare I say) I think you've overdone it. It looks just too saturated to me.

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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 02:21:30 AM »
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Thanks for the comments.

Luis,

Your comment is very interesting because several hikers actually stopped to ask what I was photographing even though my camera was squarely pointed at the rock and tree. I'm sure they wanted to tell me I was on the Emerald Pools Trail and that the Pulpit was on the River Walk. Anyway, this was during the second week of Nov. 2008, and the water level was very low.  It was also just past peak for fall colors, although this tree looked pretty good in the reflected light from the canyon walls.

Jeremy,

Yeah, I need to revisit this one as my photoshop ability and color sense has not caught up to my ambitions for this photo. I am planning to make a few more versions.

Rgds, R
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2009, 08:55:07 PM »
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Here's my latest version. I will continue to work on it, but for now, let me just say that I've thoroughly enjoyed the painless, yet constructive comments. Thx -R

The latest version is more to my taste, very nice image.
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