Wide gamut monitor questions

[Hermie]

I wonder what they'll do when they'll run out of DTP94s...

See http://www.integrated-color.com/cedpro/dtp94.html

Quote:
"You may have heard that the XRite DTP-94 has been discontinued. Well, that is not exactly the entire story. They have discontinued retail sales of the DTP-94 but continue to manufacture and sell to a few devoted customers like Integrated Color Corp."

[Hermie]

See http://www.integrated-color.com/cedpro/dtp94.html

Quote:
"You may have heard that the XRite DTP-94 has been discontinued. Well, that is not exactly the entire story. They have discontinued retail sales of the DTP-94 but continue to manufacture and sell to a few devoted customers like Integrated Color Corp."

I remember that Chromix bought extra stock when it was discontinued and they ran out of DTP94s a long long time ago.

Now EIZO Europe bundles the DTP94 with their displays. They must be coming from somewhere.

[Czornyj]

Now EIZO Europe bundles the DTP94 with their displays. They must be coming from somewhere.

Interesting, I dind't know that. Polish Eizo distributor sells only i1 display2 "dedicated for Eizo" (whatever that means), DTP94B bundles were not available at all. Well, it explains a lot, I even started to suspect, that Quato had buried larger amount of colorimeters in the garden...

[Hermie]

... Well, it explains a lot, I even started to suspect, that Quato had buried larger amount of colorimeters in the garden...

See for example:
http://www.eizo.de/monitore/color-graphic-...oll/CG241W.html Click on bundle info

Same thing here in The Netherlands.

[swashbu]

Integrated-color is now recommending the Spyder3 over the DTP94 for calibrating wide gamut monitors with ColorEyes Display Pro. Link below has all the details.

http://www.integrated-color.com/cedpro/spyder3.html

Steve

[pegelli]

I have an i1-2 and use it for creating profiles for my HP LP2475w and get decent results and colors which match well with what I saw on my older (more narrow gamut) samsung display.
I'll probably try to borrow a spectrometer from someone to see how much difference it really makes vs. a colorimeter like the i1-2.

However there is also another problem I found with my new "wider than sRGB" gamut monitor Ever since I got it I noticed all my pictures on the web looked much more vibrant and saturated vs. my Photoshop color managed rendering. This is probably because the monitor has a wider gamut than sRGB, so the "uncolormanaged" browser was stretching the colors in my images over the whole monitor gamut, hence a saturation boost.

Today I found out that Mozilla Firefox 3 (my standard browser) has color management features, but they are disabled by default.

However if you look on this website you'll find the background on color managed browsers and how to enable it in Mozilla Firefox.

I've just done it, and now my web published pictures look exactly like the same pic in Photoshop. So I now can also have more faith that pictures posted by others are rendered like they intended.

Maybe a bit off-topic but hopefully usefull for people getting wider gamut monitors.

[Gupfold]

I have the LP2475w and use the Spyder3Elite with windows vista 32 and am very happy with the results, very easy and predictable. The Spyder2 did not work properly.

[CynthiaM]

However there is also another problem I found with my new "wider than sRGB" gamut monitor Ever since I got it I noticed all my pictures on the web looked much more vibrant and saturated vs. my Photoshop color managed rendering. This is probably because the monitor has a wider gamut than sRGB, so the "uncolormanaged" browser was stretching the colors in my images over the whole monitor gamut, hence a saturation boost.

Today I found out that Mozilla Firefox 3 (my standard browser) has color management features, but they are disabled by default.

I am aware of this.  This would be on a shared computer for myself and my husband.  My work is mostly in photoshop, Lightroom, the web,an occasional word or excel document where color isn't really an issue, his is mostly web and other apps like Ofiice, or Quicken, again, I don't think color is really an issue for him.  But I know to change that setting in Firefox.

Do you do your own printing?  What about screen to print accuracy?  This is where my concern lies.  And what are you using to drive the i1?  Their software or something else?

Thanks,

[CynthiaM]

I have the LP2475w and use the Spyder3Elite with windows vista 32 and am very happy with the results, very easy and predictable. The Spyder2 did not work properly.

And what about your screen to print accuracy?  I've wondered about this device but hesitated because the colorvison products seem to get a bad rap around here.

And you say that the Spyder is easy to use.  Are you using a regular or advanced mode?

[pegelli]

I am aware of this.  This would be on a shared computer for myself and my husband.  My work is mostly in photoshop, Lightroom, the web,an occasional word or excel document where color isn't really an issue, his is mostly web and other apps like Ofiice, or Quicken, again, I don't think color is really an issue for him.  But I know to change that setting in Firefox.

Do you do your own printing?  What about screen to print accuracy?  This is where my concern lies.  And what are you using to drive the i1?  Their software or something else?

Thanks,

I do use the Match 3 standard GretagMcBeth software.  

I do some own printing but only up to A4 / 8.5x11 on an Epson R265 with a local photostore provided simple profile, mostly on Ilford Galerie smooth pearl (So not a typical fine-art print set-up)
I get very decent results that way, only between my web posting and printing I usually need to put in some fill light to get some richer shadows with good detail that otherwise get very dark. The amount varies based on how important and how much the shadow areas are to the total picture.

I've been thinking about an A3+ printer, but don't print enough to justify it. If I need anything bigger I usually use a local print service, again with decent (not perfect) screen to print results.

[Gupfold]

And what about your screen to print accuracy?  I've wondered about this device but hesitated because the colorvison products seem to get a bad rap around here.

And you say that the Spyder is easy to use.  Are you using a regular or advanced mode?

Hi CynthiaM, sorry for the late reply - haven't checked back for a while.
My Screen to print is VERY nice, I am very happy that the colour and brightness I see on screen I am going to get on paper (obviously considering paper limitations etc). I Use Spyder3Elite in the advanced mode. The Monitor is very bright, and for my conditions I have to bring the monitor Luminance down to 100 by using the RGB and brightness controls.  

I use an Epson 3800 with H Fine Art Byrata and H Photorag mostly with some profiles Eric Chan made for me a while back or in the ABW mode.

[CynthiaM]

Hi CynthiaM, sorry for the late reply - haven't checked back for a while.
My Screen to print is VERY nice, I am very happy that the colour and brightness I see on screen I am going to get on paper (obviously considering paper limitations etc). I Use Spyder3Elite in the advanced mode. The Monitor is very bright, and for my conditions I have to bring the monitor Luminance down to 100 by using the RGB and brightness controls.  

I use an Epson 3800 with H Fine Art Byrata and H Photorag mostly with some profiles Eric Chan made for me a while back or in the ABW mode.

Gupfold:
Thanks for the response.