This image of Karl would make me buy Hasselblad . . .. actually this image would probably make me want to go into plumbing repair.
Why does everyone get their knickers in such a twist over these cameras.
This forum especially is a Phase driven marketing vehicle of dealers, reps, users, friends, dealer associates and seminar givers.
I own 2 Phase plus backs, they work ok when your on a tripod and have lots of light because that's what they were designed for.
The rest of the time, if you work under pressure they're a slow, overpriced, antiquated, hugely depreciating pain in the ass and the only thing that Phase can deliver on time are more megpaixels.
They miss all of they're deadlines on lenses, software and any real improvement in the use of the cameras/backs and instead of getting better at fulfilling past promises, they just change their policy not to make any promises. That's pretty funny.
But that's ok, so have all the medium format companies, that's their business model.
Fast speed? I have a p21+ that is also suppose to shoot at .8 of a second and that is still a lot slower than the Contax was with film. In fact the only way you can get to the real speed of a peewhateversensorplus back is to NOT use a Phase camera, you have to use an old Hasselblad H.
The thing I find totally amazing is of all the people that proclaim the goodness of the "new" Peewhateversensorplus backs is how few have actually said they use them for commerce.
I don't care what anybody shoots with, including High Collar Karl, but the question ol' Snook asked was legitimate. The dealers and reps were pushing their chest out saying they have sold MANY peehwhateversensorplus backs and he just asked what is many?
In the world of medium format that probably means 6.
He also made the mistake of asking "how much" and God knows in the world of medium format sales, nobody wants to publish prices, they want you to come into the dealers office, real or virtual, while they go back and forth to the "manager" to get you that "special" price. Kind of like the way you use to buy a Chrysler. (Remember the phrase, "use to").
Buying a new car or a new medium format back are the only two ways I know to drop $30,000 to $40,000 and not have a good time.
In fact buying a Chrysler (sorry I meant Phase) is the only way I know to trade in your old machine, get a new one and they still look the same.
I should be the customer Phase targets. So should Snook. We both own Phase products could buy another, but speaking only for myself, until I see something that is more than 20 more horsepower under the hood and a resale value of 40%, I'll wait.