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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2009, 03:46:55 AM » |
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I did, John, same, it gives me the normal Leaf site.
Thierry John is right Thierry, I'm redirected to Leaf America too. My take on this is that they've shrunk their production for now until they either sell Leaf or the market picks up. Don't forget how they got Leaf, it's not something that Kodak wanted in the first place but I doubt that they'll just kill it.
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2009, 03:58:15 AM » |
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Just all speculation naturally!
Interesting there is a deafening silence from the Leaf people on board. I am curious what is happening. It does have the signals of something in the making. Maybe Sinar & Leaf joining forces more closely? Which doesn't seem too odd and quite natural to me. A consolidation to basically 3 parties would make sense, to me anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2009, 04:17:31 AM » |
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I wouldn't panic yet to be honest, let's wait for a few weeks and see what happens. It could very well be that there is alot going on where they cannot comment about concerning legal issues. I've seen this happen before.
If the leaf unit would be closed down or stop excisting I think they would comment. Just the fact that er is no comment what so ever makes me think that there are things going on behind the screen, maybe/probarbly be a split in some form, maybe a new company or maybe a buyout or whatever. Normally this would take maybe 2-3 weeks, so I guess we will know more in that time period.
It isn't over till the fat ladie sings and I did not yet hear that yet.
But that's not official offcourse and only my opinion But seeing the fact that no one from leaf responses when they are normally very quick gives me a lot of hints in that direction.
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2009, 09:09:05 AM » |
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Dear David, John is right Thierry, I'm redirected to Leaf America too. Well, in this case they have to empty the cache more often here in Thailand, at my provider's place: my link is still working! My take on this is that they've shrunk their production for now until they either sell Leaf or the market picks up. Only speculations: it is wise not to fall into it, the past has proven almost any speculation to be wrong. Best regards, Thierry
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2009, 09:22:17 AM » |
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Well, in this case they have to empty the cache more often here in Thailand, at my provider's place: my link is still working! Can be simple explanation: Many websites are sensitive to our geographic locations. E.g., www.yahoo.com comes up in Traditional Chinese here in Hong Kong... to make matters worse, cannot find choice for English and Hong Kong is officially Traditionally Chinese and English, but also unofficially Simplified Chinese... silly. Try www.nikon.com.hk who still have not realized that the very many non Chinese living here are good buying power... In other words, if in USA, likely Leaf America. If in Thailand likely Leaf Asia. For some reason there are Euro offers of Leaf AF-I when I look up www.leaf-photography.com here in Hong Kong , yet perhaps they already know I am happy with mine! Anders
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2009, 12:21:19 PM » |
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I'm in Europe, just emptied cache and history, and checked leaf-photography.com and it took me to the usual european leaf site at leaf-photography.com with european offers etc. No obvious changes at this end...
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2009, 01:21:09 PM » |
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I'm in Europe, just emptied cache and history, and checked leaf-photography.com and it took me to the usual european leaf site at leaf-photography.com with european offers etc. No obvious changes at this end...
Matt i'm in europe too and http://www.leaf-photography.com/ is working without any problems....
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2009, 03:54:06 PM » |
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I only know a little info, but I don't think Leaf is going anywhere. I guess Kodak is keeping quite why things happen. I personally don't think its the best move to not address the issue. At least say everything is ok, but we cant give any info at this time. My understanding is, we have to wait a few weeks to get the full story.
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2009, 08:22:05 AM » |
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EDITED BY MODERATOR This kind of anti-semitic nonsense is completely unacceptable, even if it is accepted as part of the normal discourse in most countries. You and your post should both be deleted.
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2009, 08:39:27 AM » |
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This kind of anti-semitic nonsense is completely unacceptable, even if it is accepted as part of the normal discourse in most countries. You and your post should both be deleted. Totally agree!
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2009, 08:41:39 AM » |
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This kind of anti-semitic nonsense is completely unacceptable, even if it is accepted as part of the normal discourse in most countries. You and your post should both be deleted. I'll be the third to agree and ask Michael to remove this offensive post immediately.
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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2009, 08:50:10 AM » |
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This kind of anti-semitic nonsense is completely unacceptable, even if it is accepted as part of the normal discourse in most countries. You and your post should both be deleted. I think that was a complement
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2009, 08:59:39 AM » |
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I think that was a complement Which goes to show the frame of mind that we are concerned with. Lets just clarify a bit. If you refer to me as Japanese or Chinese, you are talking about my nationality. If you refer to me as a Jew, that's a religion. Throw in the less than veiled insinuation of sales and commerce and you have the typical anti semitic sentiment that I'm referring to. Unless you've been on the recieving end of this, you probably won't understand.
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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2009, 09:17:50 AM » |
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Which goes to show the frame of mind that we are concerned with. Lets just clarify a bit.
If you refer to me as Japanese or Chinese, you are talking about my nationality. If you refer to me as a Jew, that's a religion. Throw in the less than veiled insinuation of sales and commerce and you have the typical anti semitic sentiment that I'm referring to.
Unless you've been on the recieving end of this, you probably won't understand. I'm Jew.
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« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2009, 09:21:24 AM » |
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I'll be the third to agree and ask Michael to remove this offensive post immediately. maybe it should be left on, get it in the open.. lets see who says what..show their true colors. you say/type it, you own it. He of course has the option to do the right thing and delete it himself and apologize...this is why I favor real names..no hiding behind xy&z.
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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2009, 12:34:57 PM » |
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Which goes to show the frame of mind that we are concerned with. Lets just clarify a bit.
If you refer to me as Japanese or Chinese, you are talking about my nationality. If you refer to me as a Jew, that's a religion. Throw in the less than veiled insinuation of sales and commerce and you have the typical anti semitic sentiment that I'm referring to.
Unless you've been on the recieving end of this, you probably won't understand. huh? I'm surprised. So everytime someone mentions China if I'm insecure I would think feel that you're insulting me? (I'm chinese) sorry but to me Jewish people are admirable in certain areas, their ability to handle business is one big part of it. If you think of it as an insult then maybe it's a reflection of your own insecurity.
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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2009, 01:47:30 PM » |
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huh? I'm surprised. So everytime someone mentions China if I'm insecure I would think feel that you're insulting me? (I'm chinese) sorry but to me Jewish people are admirable in certain areas, their ability to handle business is one big part of it. If you think of it as an insult then maybe it's a reflection of your own insecurity. Michael please put an end to this racial rhetoric. This is not the forum for it Don
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« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2009, 01:55:07 PM » |
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huh? I'm surprised. So everytime someone mentions China if I'm insecure I would think feel that you're insulting me? (I'm chinese) sorry but to me Jewish people are admirable in certain areas, their ability to handle business is one big part of it. If you think of it as an insult then maybe it's a reflection of your own insecurity. To insinuate that any particular cultural or religious group is any more or less adept at any given activity is racist and pure nonsense in my opinion. I have now said my last words on this topic.
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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2009, 02:10:52 PM » |
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And now back to are topic
Lets wait and see? But it scares me if production moves to China.
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