Paper Talk

[ognita]

Thanks for the reply Murph =) I thought I killed the your thread there with a rather selfish question... whew!
I should have just asked what's would be the best paper for smoothest gradations, hehe

Anyway, thank you for your kind words, Murph. I'll step aside so Paper Talk can continue

Thanks!
ReD

PS. I'm looking at Chen Changfen's work right now. Thanks for the reference

[peterpix]

No one else has a favorite paper or paper suggestion for the members of the forum?

I've  been printing an exhibit using Red River Aurora  white and its great and inexpensive.

Peter

[Murph]

Jeff just sent me a couple of photos printed on the Hahnemuehl Photo Rag Baryta, and I am very, very impressed.  Very nice stuff.

[ssgphoto]

I have been using the hahnemuhle photorag 308 forever and love it, and recently started using the ultrasmooth 305 since I needed a rag paper in 60" widths and have been really pleased. Its just like the 308 just a little smoother and seems a tad brighter.

[Sharon Van Lieu]

ReD, if you get a chance to try Epson Exhibition Fiber, I think it would work very well with your work.

Sharon

[ognita]

ReD, if you get a chance to try Epson Exhibition Fiber, I think it would work very well with your work.

Sharon

Thanks a lot for the tip, Sharon! I'm eager to try it out

Murphy, you lucky you. I guess you and jeff are neighbors

[Murph]

Not quite, he lives in Houston, I live in San Antonio, Texas.  However, I can easily second the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper comment, Ken printed one this weekend, and it looks great, and reminds me of the old "F" surface photo paper from Kodak.  A can't go wrong paper either.

Thanks a lot for the tip, Sharon! I'm eager to try it out

Murphy, you lucky you. I guess you and jeff are neighbors

[Murph]

Anyone have any flaking issues with either of these papers?

quote name='TylerB' date='Sep 3 2009, 02:37 AM' post='307892']
As long as you keep the distinction between PhotoRag Baryta and Fine Art Baryta in mind I think you''ve gotten good feedback along the lines of my experiences as well. For one more photo black paper to try, Innova FibaPrint White Semi-Matte is excellent, if just a hair cool for my taste, and may have one of the nicest darkroom type surfaces I've seen.
For matte black, the Premier Art Generations Alise, both bright and natural white, continues to be impressive papers in my testing.
Tyler
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[JeffKohn]

I've not seen any flaking with the Baryta papers. It's definitely an issue with the original matte version of Photo Rag, though. I got in the habit of brushing the sheets off before printing with it (couldn't really do that with rolls though).

[Jeff Magidson]

As long as you keep the distinction between PhotoRag Baryta and Fine Art Baryta in mind I think you''ve gotten good feedback along the lines of my experiences as well. For one more photo black paper to try, Innova FibaPrint White Semi-Matte is excellent, if just a hair cool for my taste, and may have one of the nicest darkroom type surfaces I've seen.
For matte black, the Premier Art Generations Alise, both bright and natural white, continues to be impressive papers in my testing.
Tyler

Tyler;

I also love FibaPrint White Semi-Matte and have been printing on it for a few years. I love the surface and the way it takes ink. However I have had so many QC problems with it that I am always looking for a substitute. I buy it in sheets and often a box will have very stubborn curls / waves in the sheets that will just not lay flat.

[TylerB]

Tyler;

I also love FibaPrint White Semi-Matte and have been printing on it for a few years. I love the surface and the way it takes ink. However I have had so many QC problems with it that I am always looking for a substitute. I buy it in sheets and often a box will have very stubborn curls / waves in the sheets that will just not lay flat.

I'm sorry to hear that, it seems we always run into these issues with use. I was a big fan of Ilford Gold Fiber Silk when it came out and I've seen many nice prints on it, but handling became too big of a problem for me. With sheets it's been fine, rolls are a big problem for me.
More and more I'm seeing QC paper issues, I wonder if the economy is having an impact...
Tyler

[abiggs]

Murph, I am also in Houston and I have a *ton* of paper from most manufacturers. I do consulting for Moab Paper, which naturally means that I have all of their papers in my studio (both cut sheets and rolls). One paper that hasn't been mentioned is the new Somerset Photo Satin 300gsm cotton rag paper, which is an incredible matte paper with one of the best blacks I have yet seen.

Feel free to stop by sometime. I am over in the Memorial area.

Andy

[pleverington]

Murph, I am also in Houston and I have a *ton* of paper from most manufacturers. I do consulting for Moab Paper, which naturally means that I have all of their papers in my studio (both cut sheets and rolls). One paper that hasn't been mentioned is the new Somerset Photo Satin 300gsm cotton rag paper, which is an incredible matte paper with one of the best blacks I have yet seen.

Feel free to stop by sometime. I am over in the Memorial area.

Andy

Hi Andy!

Hey Andy, could you provide a link for that satin paper? I couldn't find it on the Moab website.

Paul

[abiggs]

Great question. Moab Paper launched a new web site a few weeks ago, and it looks like the paper didn't make it onto the site. It is a new paper, so that may explain its absence. I have sent an email to their marketing director to ask why it isn't there.

[Murph]

Anyone tried the Innova offerings?  Or the Inkpress papers?

Inkjet Art

Inkjet art Inkpress

[abiggs]

Murph, Inkpress papers can be nice, but their biggest issue is consistency. I have bought papers from them in the past, and sometimes the papers don't closely match at all. Kind of weird.

I found out yesterday why the Somerset Photo Satin paper isn't on their web site. It has to do with the mill in Somerset, England. They won't allow Legion Paper to co-mingle the paper with the Moab Paper branded products on the web site. You can still buy the paper through the normal dealers, but not on the web site. It is a very beautiful paper.

[Murph]

Really, that is interesting about the Somerset Photo Satin.  I wonder if Legion has changed the Entrada any since they took it over?  

Murph, Inkpress papers can be nice, but their biggest issue is consistency. I have bought papers from them in the past, and sometimes the papers don't closely match at all. Kind of weird.

I found out yesterday why the Somerset Photo Satin paper isn't on their web site. It has to do with the mill in Somerset, England. They won't allow Legion Paper to co-mingle the paper with the Moab Paper branded products on the web site. You can still buy the paper through the normal dealers, but not on the web site. It is a very beautiful paper.

[abiggs]

Absolutely no changes at all with Entrada. They were smart not to mess with such a popular paper.

[Murph]

Sorry, back from the dead, but I have found that on my 4880, the Moab Entrada prints the absolute best, compared to the Hahnemuehl Photo Rag, and Bamboo.  Now using Windows 7 64 bit, and it seems to handle profiles, for me, better than Windows XP.  Although for some reason my printing issues with Hahnemuehl Bamboo have completely disappeared as well.  I have found that I like the weight/feel of the 295/308 gsm papers more than the 190 gsm papers.  The Entrada 300 gsm reminds me of the old double weight Kodak Medalist photo paper.  If I absolutely HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT, I use the Entrada, it just works on my 4880.