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« on: October 12, 2009, 12:02:56 PM »
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Please explain the PhaseOne situation with regards to new lenses. I read this thread:

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....c=38200&hl=

and I could not understand if PhaseOne promised new lenses and now they are delivering them but only to customers who purchase their new 645DF true? I find that hard to believe. Please explain.

Also, what has caused the delays with new the PhaseOne lenses? Is it design related?

Has it been a long delay?

Arent lenses available for the PhaseOne camera now? Why cant photographers use these lenses?

Im not a PhaseOne customer, but I often see threads about Hasselblad created by forum members that state they will not purchase Hasselblad so I figured itd be ok to inquire in a new thread.

Thanks in advance for explaining.

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 03:15:12 PM »
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Please explain the PhaseOne situation with regards to new lenses. I read this thread:

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....c=38200&hl=

and I could not understand if PhaseOne promised new lenses and now they are delivering them but only to customers who purchase their new 645DF – true? I find that hard to believe. Please explain.

Also, what has caused the delays with new the PhaseOne lenses? Is it design related?

Has it been a long delay?

Aren’t lenses available for the PhaseOne camera now? Why can’t photographers use these lenses?

I’m not a PhaseOne customer, but I often see threads about Hasselblad created by forum members that state they will not purchase Hasselblad – so I figured it’d be ok to inquire in a new thread.

Thanks in advance for explaining.

Kind regards,
Derek Jecxz
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You may want to read the press releases.  Check out LL's What's New page, Michael has a link for the new body and lenses.

Also this thread is probably more informative ... http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=37987

They appear to be a cooperative effort between Mamiya, PhaseOne, and Schneider. One big difference is the inclusion of a leaf shutter, which is not supported in current Mamiya cameras (including the PhaseOne version of the Mamiya AFD3), thus a newly designed camera body.  I was surprised the lenses don't work on the older bodies, just without the ability of using the shutter.  I assume to engineer this was either impossible or would compromise the lens design in some way. (or maybe they will?)

I don't think there is any delay.  I know PhaseOne has mentioned working very closely with Mamiya to improve the underlying camera system and technology, this seems to be one step, but I haven't seen anything promised.  Additionally it appears those that purchased a new PhaseOne camera recently will be provided with an upgrade path if they choose ... something I haven't seen before.  I hope this is true since I've had my PhaseOne camera for only a couple of months now.

Personally I'm more interested if any other features have been improved, like having more flexibility when auto bracketing and improved shutter delay when using mirror lockup mode.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 07:25:24 PM »
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You may want to read the press releases.  Check out LL's What's New page, Michael has a link for the new body and lenses.

Also this thread is probably more informative ... http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=37987

They appear to be a cooperative effort between Mamiya, PhaseOne, and Schneider. One big difference is the inclusion of a leaf shutter, which is not supported in current Mamiya cameras (including the PhaseOne version of the Mamiya AFD3), thus a newly designed camera body.  I was surprised the lenses don't work on the older bodies, just without the ability of using the shutter.  I assume to engineer this was either impossible or would compromise the lens design in some way. (or maybe they will?)

I don't think there is any delay.  I know PhaseOne has mentioned working very closely with Mamiya to improve the underlying camera system and technology, this seems to be one step, but I haven't seen anything promised.  Additionally it appears those that purchased a new PhaseOne camera recently will be provided with an upgrade path if they choose ... something I haven't seen before.  I hope this is true since I've had my PhaseOne camera for only a couple of months now.

Personally I'm more interested if any other features have been improved, like having more flexibility when auto bracketing and improved shutter delay when using mirror lockup mode.
Wayne, I generally don't spend a lot of time looking at the equipment reviews here, I find I have barely enough time for all the other good info on this site. Appreciate the explanation and it is more clear now. Be well.

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Derek
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 11:00:21 PM »
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mmmm, didn't mention anything about any reviews .. just the PhaseOne press releases and a more pertinent thread (albeit long one).

no worries, glad it helped.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 01:45:42 AM »
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mmmm, didn't mention anything about any reviews .. just the PhaseOne press releases and a more pertinent thread (albeit long one).
"Review," "press release," certainly did not mean anything specific by my choice of words. I believe I did glance at it (What's New) originally, and just read it fully now, but my original post was about the complaint thread link that I provided, the one in which people complain and mention lawsuit. Hence my request for clarification, specifically about the wide availability of existing lenses, which did not make sense to me (if lenses are available already what's the problem?).

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no worries, glad it helped.
Should I have worried?

How do you like the new PhaseOne camera? The body style looks more comfortable to hold than the H (which is what I use), is it? What factors moved you to purchase it, as opposed to upgrading your H (your icon/avatar shows you holding an H)? Now that you have worked with both, any thoughts comparing the two?

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 02:48:57 AM »
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Additionally it appears those that purchased a new PhaseOne camera recently will be provided with an upgrade path if they choose ... something I haven't seen before.  I hope this is true since I've had my PhaseOne camera for only a couple of months now.

Wayne, it is true, at least here in the UK. Furthermore it's a pretty generous upgrade deal. However, it's only open until the end of October, so if you haven't heard from Phase One yet then I recommend you follow it up with your dealer.
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