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« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2009, 08:42:51 AM »
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Why a browser?  My processed images aren't SRGB anyway.  Go full res and "save as" and view in whatever viewer you want.
If we all go "full res", then most images will not fit on a monitor screen at full res, regardless of the viewer you use, unless the viewer is down-resing to fit on the screen, which will lose some detail anyway.

I'm happy to provide files at whatever size the team agrees on. If it's full res, then I would not apply any output sharpening.


We should probably decide on a common color space for the processed file, too. Since most of us are likely to be viewing them only on-screen, sRGB seems to me to make sense, although I will do all earlier processing in Prophoto, 16-bit.

I guess the ground rules need a bit more clarifying.

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« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2009, 09:00:41 AM »
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Everyone should have their upload links now.  Please begin to upload your 3 files.

Everyone go ahead and upload 3 files - we'll keep this open until the middle of next week.
Everyone will then be given a link for 3 files to download and process themselves - everyone will have a week or so to process the images and then resubmit them through the upload link.

We will present the results at the end of that period, and the the links for all the files will be presented to everyone.

Let's give this a whirl!

I am traveling and away from my photo computer. I won't be able to upload anything until Tuesday.
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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2009, 02:00:41 PM »
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Another request to all photographers. I am working with DXO and would love to have "virgin" rawfiles. DXO is a bit sensitive if other raw-converters have touched the file already. In case you want to upload raw files that you have already woked on with another raw converter I can always user either ACR or DPP but I just hardly use them.

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« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2009, 02:05:44 PM »
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whatever I do, the upload of Raw-files does not work. I am on an imac and have tried Firefox and Safari. It says "Sending request to wolfepackarts.com" and that's it.

Siegfried

How long do you wait?  That's all you'll see but the message will change once it's been fully loaded.
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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2009, 03:27:57 AM »
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How long do you wait?  That's all you'll see but the message will change once it's been fully loaded.


Yesterday it suddenly worked. I have uploaded.

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« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2009, 08:14:29 AM »
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Hi,

Another request to all photographers. I am working with DXO and would love to have "virgin" rawfiles. DXO is a bit sensitive if other raw-converters have touched the file already. In case you want to upload raw files that you have already woked on with another raw converter I can always user either ACR or DPP but I just hardly use them.

Siegfried
I would hope we would all be providing "virgin" raw files as you request. That's the point of the experiment, IMHO. The only situation in which a raw file might need to be reworked is if the camera that took it isn't recognized by someone's favorite raw converter, in which case converting it to .dng might be needed.

I decided not to include an image from my ancient Canon S60, since it isn't supported by most decent raw converters (and not by DxO), so my raw is from a Canon 5D.   


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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2009, 12:52:21 PM »
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I have just uploaded my files:
  • A RAW file, as it left the camera.
  • A JPEG file, my best effort with it.
I have also included a PP2 file: it is the 'sidecar' file used by RawTherapee, the convertor I used to process that file, just in case the 'victim' who receives my files is curious. I tried to select a photograph that best matched both this site's name and the spirit of the thread. Hope you like it.
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« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2009, 10:36:11 AM »
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I've updated the first post with the remainder of the process.

Most notably, upload your rendering of a raw file as a full resolution, 100% quality jpeg.  I will take care of batch generating the smaller sized jpegs (1280x1024, 800x600) so that everything is consistent across the board with respect to resizing results.

Also, let's upload your own take on your own RAW file as well.
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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2009, 02:49:36 PM »
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Hello awolfe and others,

as already mentioned above I use DXO - in other words it would be great if we somehow let each other know what camera and lens we have used so that I can download the correction modules if available.

Thanks

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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2009, 07:12:12 PM »
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Most notably, upload your rendering of a raw file as a full resolution, 100% quality jpeg.  I will take care of batch generating the smaller sized jpegs (1280x1024, 800x600) so that everything is consistent across the board with respect to resizing results.
I have a problem with this concept, namely that the sharpening depends on the presentation size. The image has to be resized before sharpening, everything else is barbarity.

This means, that we should agree on the size, for example as a from-to width and from-to height.
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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2009, 02:50:13 PM »
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I have a problem with this concept, namely that the sharpening depends on the presentation size. The image has to be resized before sharpening, everything else is barbarity.

Revised:

Everyone provide a resized, sharpened and completed full size and 1280x1024 version of their image.
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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2009, 06:36:48 AM »
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Hi!

How far away are we from distributing files?  I'm all ready to go
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« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2009, 11:26:41 AM »
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We've got 10 raw files at this point.  

Tonight I'll distribute the links to everyone to download their RAW files for processing.
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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2009, 08:10:15 PM »
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We've got 10 raw files at this point.  

Tonight I'll distribute the links to everyone to download their RAW files for processing.

It looks as if we are still missing the processed versions from PetrAit and Christopher. Come on, guys!


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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2009, 12:05:16 AM »
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It looks as if we are still missing the processed versions from PetrAit and Christopher. Come on, guys!


Eric

I have selected the raw file and I'm ready to go, I'm just bin a little bit off the human track the last weeks. (Only slow GPRS Internet) I'm getting back to a big city tomorrow evening and can upload it than. Sorry guys for the waiting time, didn't plan to go that long with a normal connection.
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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2009, 08:21:48 AM »
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I have selected the raw file and I'm ready to go, I'm just bin a little bit off the human track the last weeks. (Only slow GPRS Internet) I'm getting back to a big city tomorrow evening and can upload it than. Sorry guys for the waiting time, didn't plan to go that long with a normal connection.
You have my sympathy, Christopher.

Now that I have blazing fast fibre optic DSL, I have to remind myself from time to time what it was like in the "good old days" when I was using a 300-baud acoustic coupler on my regular phone line. Ouch! Text only, of course. Before the days of The Internet or even email.


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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2009, 02:34:54 PM »
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You have my sympathy, Christopher.

Now that I have blazing fast fibre optic DSL, I have to remind myself from time to time what it was like in the "good old days" when I was using a 300-baud acoustic coupler on my regular phone line. Ouch! Text only, of course. Before the days of The Internet or even email.


Eric

What was it like hooking up horses for your morning commute?
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« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2009, 10:48:32 PM »
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What was it like hooking up horses for your morning commute?
Horses? Nah. We'd just go out and collar a woolly mammoth. 
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« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2009, 08:56:06 PM »
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Horses? Nah. We'd just go out and collar a woolly mammoth. 


Oh it feels so great to have normal internet access and not having to wait 30 seconds for every page to load. I uploaded two different packages and sent the link. I first had one finished, but realized at the end that some might be unhappy with a P65 files, because they could not use their raw converter of choice. (only c1, RD and LR)

Then I uploaded a different image from my 5DMk2. I personally would prefer to use the P65 image, because it is more difficult and challenging. However I understand if some people don't want to use their "none" favorite raw converter for this.

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« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2009, 10:27:52 PM »
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Oh it feels so great to have normal internet access and not having to wait 30 seconds for every page to load. I uploaded two different packages and sent the link. I first had one finished, but realized at the end that some might be unhappy with a P65 files, because they could not use their raw converter of choice. (only c1, RD and LR)

Then I uploaded a different image from my 5DMk2. I personally would prefer to use the P65 image, because it is more difficult and challenging. However I understand if some people don't want to use their "none" favorite raw converter for this.
This got me a thinking, I am using CS3 so I don't even think I would be able to process a 5D mkII file with ACR should I be assigned such a file.  

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