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« on: November 18, 2009, 08:13:43 PM »
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Is anybody besides me disappointed, outraged even, with Ken Rockwell's disparagement of the PODAS program and especially Michael, Jeff and the other pros?  It's in today's post on his blog.  It's a new low for him; outright insults.

I don't mind him touting JPGs and himself and often read his blog for laughs, but this stuff is beyond the pale.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 08:47:01 PM »
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Is anybody besides me disappointed, outraged even, with Ken Rockwell's disparagement of the PODAS program and especially Michael, Jeff and the other pros?  It's in today's post on his blog.  It's a new low for him; outright insults.

I don't mind him touting JPGs and himself and often read his blog for laughs, but this stuff is beyond the pale.

The only thing bigger than Rockwell's mouth is his ego.

Best not to feed the troll.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 09:06:57 PM »
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Looks like he's now backed off and removed his trashy entry as a result of a number of complaints.

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 09:49:28 PM »
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Not only stupid but a coward too.
If you are stupid at least stand behind your words.

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 01:53:02 AM »
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This comes as no surprise. Saying silly, controversial things is simply Ken's business model.

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Best not to feed the troll.

Exactly.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 02:27:02 AM »
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This comes as no surprise. Saying silly, controversial things is simply Ken's business model.

Bingo. Ken is one of many trolling the blogosphere who play the pot-stirring game as a ploy to raise their click-thru numbers. He posts outrageous stuff in a specific formula guaranteed to piss people off; they vent about it on other forums; he gets the free publicity he needs to increase his visitor clicks. Photography bonafides or no, the cynical game he plays with his readers in his pursuit of cash are why I stopped reading him long ago.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 07:43:31 AM »
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Photography bonafides or no, the cynical game he plays with his readers in his pursuit of cash are why I stopped reading him long ago.

Definitely more "no" than otherwise. I gave up on him when he started his silliness about JPEGs being good enough and RAWs are unnecessary.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 08:15:19 AM »
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If Ken’s understanding of color spaces is any indication, anything he says should be immediately dismissed as that of a troll looking for attention and nothing more.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 08:15:50 AM »
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It does seem to be his modus, controversial statements. Good for him for backing off; and hopefully he did some apologizing.

It is curious to me the amount of commentary he elicits from folks who disdain him. His humour and opinions are no less valid because some may disagree with him, and apparantly he does strike a "chord" at times.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 08:27:59 AM »
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His humour and opinions are no less valid because some may disagree with him

No, a lot of the stuff he says is verifiably wrong, incorrect, untrue BS. Color management and JPEG vs RAW are two prime examples. It's one thing to be colorful and controversial, it's quite another to be clueless and incompetent. If I were to claim that masturbating with a cheese grater is fun and something everyone should try, that claim would have no validity regardless of whether or not other people agreed with me or not, or how colorfully or humorously I phrased the recommendation.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 08:41:23 AM »
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I'm starting to see the funny side of this thread!  
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 08:59:18 AM »
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I stand by my previous statement.

I read his original post about PODAS, saw the pics, thought they were unimpressive, and now I know why. I don't remember him attacking any one person by name, though I could be wrong. The post did seem over the top, even for KR, but moral outrage about it, especially as he's retracted it?

My personal BS filter works just fine, I find him entertaining, informative, and just as full of it as most "experts" at some time or the other. I'm recused from arguments about JPEG vs RAW, as I use both, so I must be a fool.

I have spoke!  



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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 09:07:37 AM »
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Quote from: Bronislaus Janulis
I stand by my previous statement.

I read his original post about PODAS, saw the pics, thought they were unimpressive, and now I know why. I don't remember him attacking any one person by name, though I could be wrong. The post did seem over the top, even for KR, but moral outrage about it, especially as he's retracted it?

My personal BS filter works just fine, I find him entertaining, informative, and just as full of it as most "experts" at some time or the other. I'm recused from arguments about JPEG vs RAW, as I use both, so I must be a fool.

I have spoke!  



I love a good KR thread. The contents are more constant than most of the participant's camera bodies:)

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 09:09:41 AM »
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I read one of his posts quite a while ago, looking for humor. There was very little of that, and much less of meaningful content.

I find it much more entertaining to read threads like this one on LuLa. The responses to KR tend to be more literate and imaginative than anything I saw on his website.

@ Jonathan: Just what type of cheese grater would you recommend (for KR, of course)?

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 09:10:48 AM »
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It might not be popular, but I agree with KR comments on film ;-)

(well some of them)

Back on topic, no question this was ill conceived by Ken, no bad thing that this has been corrected.
But I also think it's rather embarrassing for Capture One, to have a blog up where the photos are shall we say, below par.

Granted they are only "shots of what went on etc" but do we really need camera shake and iffy exposures? This isn't a personal blog it's for a serious course with a camera manufacturer. Maybe Capture One can ensure the next one they do, has somewhat more competent photos??

Would you expect BMW to turn up to a driving course they sponsored with beaten up old cars covered in mud?? Surely even a blog is deserving of something not too bad, not talking about creative talent or work, just erm, well half decent exposures. If the blog writer isn't a photographer (and I surely hope he is not! lol), then maybe someone who is interested would do it.

Just a point to make here..I'll put the fire suit on now  
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2009, 09:13:15 AM »
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@ Jonathan: Just what type of cheese grater would you recommend (for KR, of course)?

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2009, 09:33:35 AM »
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Jonathan,

'fess up now - has that picture been photoshopped?
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2009, 09:50:02 AM »
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Not the picture but the Kid needed to be photoshopped after the slide. PtGUI pro was used to stitch back the kid.
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2009, 10:16:52 AM »
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Not the picture but the Kid needed to be photoshopped after the slide. PtGUI pro was used to stitch back the kid.

However it was accomplished, it made me laff out loud.    Thanks!
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2009, 10:38:36 AM »
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But I also think it's rather embarrassing for Capture One, to have a blog up where the photos are shall we say, below par.

Constructive criticism please

http://p1podas.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/img_3880.jpg

;-)
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