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« on: December 03, 2009, 07:00:13 AM »
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I have a Epson 3800, I use PS CS3 10.0.1 in windows 7 and I have a Spyder 3Pro.

Im making water slide decals for model planes and such and the paper Im using is from http://www.beldecal.com/

Now the images are way to dark and I guess one of the problems is no profile for this paper. They say to just pick photo glossy paper and print at best setting.

Well I am new to all of this and Im trying to wrap my head around it all.

So does a printer print less ink on "plain paper" verses a "glossy photo paper"?

Epson dont have profiles for just plain old paper, but you can pick that in the printer settings. Doh!

Suggestions on which way to start?

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 07:41:10 AM »
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I have a Epson 3800, I use PS CS3 10.0.1 in windows 7 and I have a Spyder 3Pro.

Im making water slide decals for model planes and such and the paper Im using is from http://www.beldecal.com/

Now the images are way to dark and I guess one of the problems is no profile for this paper. They say to just pick photo glossy paper and print at best setting.

Well I am new to all of this and Im trying to wrap my head around it all.

So does a printer print less ink on "plain paper" verses a "glossy photo paper"?

Epson dont have profiles for just plain old paper, but you can pick that in the printer settings. Doh!

Suggestions on which way to start?

Thanks.

the glossy paper should take more ink
from tests with a heat transfere material its better to do the calibration /evaluation on the transfered medium rather than the inkjet print as the transfere/coating process may change the colours and curves a huge amount
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 11:46:01 AM »
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To look at this paper it looks like any glossy photo paper. It does have a thin plastic film on top but it accepts ink very good.

However my printouts seem way over saturated.

So Im thinking I need to pick a profile that uses less ink,   maybe?

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 04:48:47 PM »
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To look at this paper it looks like any glossy photo paper. It does have a thin plastic film on top but it accepts ink very good.

However my printouts seem way over saturated.

So Im thinking I need to pick a profile that uses less ink, maybe?

I suggest making sure you're letting "printer manages color" in the PS print window, in the Epson driver use the profile for the type of paper that looks the most like what you're printing on (sounds like photo glossy) choose the color setting in the Epson driver that lets you adjust colors with the sliders (I forget the name, I'm at the office) which will let you not only tweak color balance but also lightness and saturation.  Then save the settings so you can pull them up easily when you do the next job.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 07:59:28 PM »
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I have photoshop manages.
Is this the sliders you speak of?  I had to pick "color controls" then "advanced" instead of "no control".

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 10:32:17 PM »
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I have photoshop manages.
Is this the sliders you speak of?  I had to pick "color controls" then "advanced" instead of "no control".

Have you tried increasing brightness and reducing saturation in the 'color controls' window?
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 11:51:31 PM »
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Dennis,

 Page 73 of your printer guide will tell you how to lower the ink density.

 On certain papers in my 2200 I have to do this to reduce pooling.

 HTH

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 07:10:34 AM »
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Ok, I will try each of these options this weekend. Thanks for the guidance. I will let you know how it goes.

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 12:58:44 PM »
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I you use the Epson driver controls, you need to change "photoshop manages" to "printer manages" to avoid double profiling.

If you have been using "photoshop manages" without selecting "none" for color management in Epson, that could be the reason for your troubles.

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