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« on: January 28, 2010, 06:40:59 AM »
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So, its finally arrived, after months of speculation Apple has released the iPad. i cant say that i was very impressed my self. But after looking at the specs page i noticed that there are two adapters for it, one USB and one SD card. This got me thinking that it would make a great viewer for MF backs. If they released  a FireWire adapter for it, and Phase one made a "Lite" version of C1, could be very useful...

What are your thoughts..
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 08:24:49 AM »
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As far as I can tell, it will be able to run any app that already runs on an iPod Touch / iPhone, which means that the Leaf Capture Remote app will probably run on it already, although they might have to tweak it a little to adjust the display resolution, or something perhaps. Maybe the guys at Leaf are already testing one?
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 08:29:59 AM »
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Expect a number of interesting display / transfer / process applications from various companies over the next 6-9 months. Photokina this September will be particularly interesting.

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 08:45:34 AM »
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It could be the ultimate tethering and portable hard drive/backup system. But from what was announced yesterday, I believe there's nothing of particular interest* (for pros, that is). (Still I want two, but that's another subject

* They say you can already connect to cameras via USB. It would be interesting to now exactly what functionality is already there.

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 09:07:19 AM »
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The iPad runs Apple's own CPU, the Apple A4, manufactured by Samsung. Not surprisingly, it has an ARM Cortex A9 CPU core in it, which makes sense given that the iPod Touch and iPhone all use ARM-based CPUs, otherwise they'll have to resort to software emulation which will kill any performance benefit it's 1GHz clock speed gave it. I've not had the benefit of trying out Leaf's Capture Remote app, but if the iPod Touch can run it, then the iPad should run it even better, but for certain, I would seriously doubt that the Apple A4 CPU can come anywhere near the performance of even a "lowly" 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo running at full blast converting a RAW file...

People look at the iPad and yawn, saying, "OK, ya, so what, it looks like a gigantic iPod Touch." but from someone who worked on industrial apps when the Apple MessagePads came out, this is the sort of tablet device we've ended up having to wait a decade for. Screen quality, price, thickness and battery life are everything for this form factor, and I would expect they've tuned the multi-touch experience well too. I say, "Finally, someone's finally done it." Now I hope it sparks a plethora of competing ultra-thin tablets from Asus, Acer and the rest too.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 09:20:49 AM »
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Weather it can tether my Leaf back, provide backup storage, run C1, is besides the point.  The big impact is on the business of publishing.  What matters is that the iPad may enable the magazines to survive by charging a subscription fee for the new magazine apps on the iPad.  I used to make money working for magazines, until they started on down the path to the lowest common denominator, cheaper and more is btter route.  I hope to again make money working for magazines, in the new format, shooting both stills and video.
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 09:45:53 AM »
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The IPad really disappoints me because i hoped to a Mac OS Software and a USB or Firewire Connection. I love shooting tethered and I hoped that the new Mac could be used for it. My MacBook is to bulky to use it when the camera is on the tripod. Now it seems its more useful for my children....

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 10:21:03 AM »
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I hoped for a low spec laptop like device.
I love the iPad but I think for serious photography it's not that good.
It will not handle the RAW files, it will not tether and it won't run Aperture.

On the other hand I see BIG BIG possibilities for our Home Theater.
It's the perfect replacement for Creston etc. So I'm excited to see what happens with that.

At the moment it's a iPhone XXXXXXL but no reason for me to run to the stores.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 11:13:03 AM »
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First, it is great at anything the Apple exec. demonstrated it is good at:
for some leisure tasks and some work tasks.

Great tool for photographers, while they are not shooting.
It is a good portfolio replacement and great tool to display images for different purposes at meetings.
Iphone was already pretty good at that, the iPad is simply better.


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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 11:38:54 AM »
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I think this thing has incredible potential as a tripod-mounted focusing aid.  
I could never get used to focusing in a little tunnel of the Mamiya AFDIII viewfinder while shooting landscape work.  
And for those hardy souls using MF View Cameras/plate cameras/Alpa bodies, this could be the biggest thing since Phase One stayed open-platform:
-You could use that $30,000 back without having to mechanically slide it over or switch it out with a ground glass.  
-The camera can be kept intact and therefore more weather sealed/ dust-resistant
-and you could focus your 645 sensor on a nearly 8x10 inch "ground glass".  Anybody who has tried tilts and swings with a MFDB would probably agree that this would be a huge improvement.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 12:16:22 PM »
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As far as a product for non-photographers I would like to see this:

Scroll to the 3:15 mark...

http://vimeo.com/8217311?hd=1
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 12:18:18 PM »
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can't we imagine a fake CF card for wifi in the back to send the picture to the tablet ?
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 12:28:17 PM »
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I think this is a good start, because this product is a content viewer, not a content creator/processor.  I'm a bit disappointed that apple said this is the BEST way to view the internet in their videos but there's no flash support?  I would say that 50% of my internet usage involves flash in one way or another.   I go more in detail on my blog calebcondit.com/blog if anyone is interested in reading more.  I agree with Micheal that it'll be interesting to see what apps are created for this thing to tap it's full potential because as it stands now I might buy it to read magazines and show a multimedia presentation of my portfolio, but that's a big might.  Now if there are some serious apps worked out for professional photographers then I'd definitely get on board.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 01:02:28 PM »
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Quote from: cjmonty
I think this thing has incredible potential as a tripod-mounted focusing aid.  
I could never get used to focusing in a little tunnel of the Mamiya AFDIII viewfinder while shooting landscape work.  
And for those hardy souls using MF View Cameras/plate cameras/Alpa bodies, this could be the biggest thing since Phase One stayed open-platform:
-You could use that $30,000 back without having to mechanically slide it over or switch it out with a ground glass.  
-The camera can be kept intact and therefore more weather sealed/ dust-resistant
-and you could focus your 645 sensor on a nearly 8x10 inch "ground glass".  Anybody who has tried tilts and swings with a MFDB would probably agree that this would be a huge improvement.

im not sure why it would be better than a laptop for photography. im sure the keyboard will be more of a hassle than a real keyboard, and you would have to prop it up to see it, a laptop props its self up.
and im sure it wont have anywhere near the horse power of a laptop. if you need lightness, then theres the macbook air (if you dont need fw). i doubt anyone will make a fw adaptor for the ipad, nobodies made any usb/fw adaptors yet.
i would really like to see small pics being sent to an iphone from a leaf back- like they use to do with an hp handheld, but they cant even do that without having a macbook in the mix.

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 01:29:08 PM »
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With no multitasking... what do you want that thing to be useful for?

Nice beta version of what it could have been...

But Apple design and it looks good.

Must be hard to find a good designer on earth for the other companies to come with such a sleek design...

I found that though... http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=home
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2010, 01:46:44 PM »
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I think TMARK's right on the money re magazines, I think the iPad will be the saviour of the magazine industry.
As for tethering I don't think we'll ever see it with an iPad. What I currently do when shooting tethered with my Hasselblad is set Phocu to auto export new images as previews.
This means I can get the AD, model's mother in law etc away from the shooting station. The previews pop up on a networked mac in quicklook about 2 seconds after they are shot and it would be cool to set up an iPad this way..

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 03:49:02 PM »
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I completely understand why Apple is doing it this way, its a must have toy, not a tool for serious work. If we are lucky we will be able to tether our DSLRs with it, but I am very shure, MF digital is S.O.O.L. Apple wants to sell millions of them, three for every houshold, not just a few hundreds for a few photo geeks. I'll get on (or three) anyways...
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2010, 07:07:42 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2010, 10:16:05 PM »
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Quote from: david olivier
That is the right tool for us.
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2010, 11:51:18 PM »
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Quote from: ziocan
That is the right tool for us.

no outdoor screen, slowish processor, OSX is not great with a tablet
its weakness have been discussed on this forum before - please do an archive search.

use a windows 7 tablet - much better answer, very powerful and cheaper.
see the post under "Digital Cameras & Shooting Techniques" iPad discussion
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