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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2010, 03:06:21 AM »
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I think to expensive, fot that type of lens.
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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2010, 04:25:15 AM »
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I think to expensive, fot that type of lens.

Isn't the Hartblei similarly priced?

http://www.hartblei.de/en/sr120m.htm
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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2010, 01:44:58 PM »
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agree, that's too expensive.  its only got 6 elements for goodness sake.
don't know why we are surprised by such prices though - you sneeze in MF world and its $1000.

and have you seen what Alpa charges to put a $1500 (retail) lens in its mount? - another $1500.!
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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2010, 02:39:04 PM »
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I think to expensive, fot that type of lens.
¿What type of lens?

¿a top quality professional MFD lens that has movements built into,,, not added on as an after-thought?

It would be nice if you could use the tele range of Schneider Apo-Digitar lenses with one t/s adapter.

... and would it not be nice if they were available for "other MFD cameras".
 
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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2010, 02:59:27 PM »
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agree, that's too expensive.  its only got 6 elements for goodness sake.
don't know why we are surprised by such prices though - you sneeze in MF world and its $1000.

and have you seen what Alpa charges to put a $1500 (retail) lens in its mount? - another $1500.!


but that mount is a really nice, perfectly square..think of it a pedestal for the lens.
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« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2010, 04:34:44 PM »
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It would be nice if you could use the tele range of Schneider Apo-Digitar lenses with one t/s adapter.

You can.

See: Cambo X-2

Compatible with
- Phase One / Mamiya bodies
- Schneider lenses (72mm and longer)
- Rodenstock lenses (90mm and longer)
- Canon/Nikon bodies
- Hasselblad 500/200 series lenses
- Mamiya 645 lenses
- Mamiya RZ lenses


However the Hasselblad H and 500 series bodies are not compatible as they do not have a shutter and are limited to using lenses with built-in shutters.

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« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2010, 04:48:30 PM »
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You can.

See: Cambo X-2

Compatible with
- Phase One / Mamiya bodies
- Schneider lenses (72mm and longer)
- Rodenstock lenses (90mm and longer)
- Canon/Nikon bodies
- Hasselblad 500/200 series lenses
- Mamiya 645 lenses
- Mamiya RZ lenses


However the Hasselblad H and 500 series bodies are not compatible as they do not have a shutter and are limited to using lenses with built-in shutters.

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Very limited. Not much on the wide side. I think he means something like an HTS for Phase bodies.
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« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2010, 05:00:10 PM »
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I think he means something like an HTS for Phase bodies.
no. he was referring to Digitars... not to a magnifying adapter to use the respective 645 lenses.
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« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2010, 05:11:36 PM »
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no. he was referring to Digitars... not to a magnifying adapter to use the respective 645 lenses.

I'm not sure Phase would want to get into the market of machining view cameras. Similar to having the DF used like the Sinar M as the rear standard of a view camera? Would the DF mechanically even be able to do this if Phase had it's own view cameras?
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2010, 04:37:19 AM »
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It would be nice if you could use the tele range of Schneider Apo-Digitar lenses with one t/s adapter.

... and would it not be nice if they were available for "other MFD cameras".
You can.
See: Cambo X-2

However the Hasselblad H and 500 series bodies are not compatible as they do not have a shutter and are limited to using lenses with built-in shutters.

Where I came from, Apo-digitars normally come with shutters.... and you can use shuttered LF or P3 lenses with a Hasselblad back on a view camera ¿but not with a Hasselblad body unless someone makes an adapter? ... a 200 (Hasselblad with a focal plane shutter) would be an option.

Hasselblad made a shutter for the V system for macro, e.g. Luminar lenses.

I seem to remember putting a Hasselblad on the back of a Sinar, but I cannot remember how the shutter and camera were synced... two cable releases, I think, one to raise the mirror and one to trip the shutter.

It would be nice to have a Hasselblad to Sinar P3 T/S adapter, as all my Apo-digitars are on P3 lensboards.
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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2010, 04:39:58 AM »
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Very limited. Not much on the wide side.
Good wides are non-retro-focus (they are as long as their focal length),,, so you cannot use them on SLR bodies.
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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2010, 10:34:57 AM »
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Very limited. Not much on the wide side. I think he means something like an HTS for Phase bodies.

Note that the HTS imposes a 1.5X magnification on the lens, so the widest it will go is 42mm [HCD28mm x 1.5].

In addition to Schneider/Rodenstock/etc lenses listed above the X-2 can accept all RZ lenses including the 50mm with focus to infinity. The X-2 retails for around $2500 depending on which lens boards and camera mounts you need.

That said - you're absolutely right - it is a limited solution on the wide end and not our recommendation for most interior/architecture/wide-angle-landscape work. For such wide angle work the best technical solution will always be a mirror-less solution such as a Cambo Wide RS (i.e. not an SLR) as the best wide-angle glass (as Dick points out) is either non retro focus or very lightly retro focus and requires a small distance to the sensor which precludes an SLR design.

Also note that you can slap just about any lens from any manufacturer of any length on an X-2 (with appropriate adapter and/or gaffe tape), but only the "compatible" lenses will focus at infinity. It is excellent therefore for table-top, product, special effects, specialized portrait etc.


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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2010, 10:42:36 AM »
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Where I came from, Apo-digitars normally come with shutters.... and you can use shuttered LF or P3 lenses with a Hasselblad back on a view camera ¿but not with a Hasselblad body unless someone makes an adapter? ... a 200 (Hasselblad with a focal plane shutter) would be an option.

Hasselblad made a shutter for the V system for macro, e.g. Luminar lenses.

I seem to remember putting a Hasselblad on the back of a Sinar, but I cannot remember how the shutter and camera were synced... two cable releases, I think, one to raise the mirror and one to trip the shutter.

It would be nice to have a Hasselblad to Sinar P3 T/S adapter, as all my Apo-digitars are on P3 lensboards.

Dick, I'm sorry if I was not clear/precise enough in my writing. I did not mean to imply that Hasselbald backs/bodies were not compatible with any solutions such as the X-2. I only meant to state that the X-2 specifically is not compatible with Hasselblad bodies/backs.

The range/type/availability/pricing of other means by which you might accomplish a similar goal using a Hasselblad SLR is not an area of my expertise.

Sorry for any confusion.
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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2010, 10:53:00 AM »
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Just arrived in Germany and checked into our hotel. Beautiful hotel in a castle! Really cute barhop.

The Phase One and Leaf Dealer Conference are this weekend. Though likely the news from that conference will be embargoed until Tuesday. However, the moment it's allowed we'll post details galore.

Notes from the show floor will begin Tuesday (German time).

We have private meetings/interviews scheduled with Cambo, Leica, and Schneider so far. Arranging more on the fly at the show.

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« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2010, 04:57:46 PM »
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Hope to meet up there. I'll be on the profot booth demoing for Elinchrom, leaf and phase one on Tuesday till Thursday.
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« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2010, 05:51:56 AM »
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Adding to an already strong line of lenses available for the Phase One DF platform, today Phase One and Schneider announced four new lenses for the Phase One DF Platform.

http://www.captureintegration.com/2010/09/19/three-other-new-schneider-lenses/

- Phase One 35mm f/3.5 D
- Phase One 120mm f/4 D Macro Autofocus
- Schneider 150mm f/3.5 LS
- Schneider 120mm f/5.6  Tilt-Shift lens*

*previously announced by Schneider


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« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2010, 06:30:04 AM »
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Here's your biggie guys:



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« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2010, 07:09:36 AM »
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Looks like an interesting photokina so far, any noteworthy improvements besides the extra megapixels?

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« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2010, 07:24:46 AM »
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I guess none so far ;-)
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« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2010, 11:13:47 AM »
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That it?  Nothing else of interest to report?  I bet you guys just skipped the show and are taking in some great German Beer!

LoL

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