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« on: October 18, 2010, 09:16:39 AM »
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Effective immediately, the Aptus-II 12 is now available for the AFi/Hy6 platform.

Please understand what we know so far:

*this is for existing AFi/Hy6 users
*there is no current stated intention to ship AFi/Hy6 cameras

This is the extent of what we know at this time. If there are questions, post them or PM me and we'll try to get answers (and provide our perspective, naturally).

We are accepting orders - $33,490 (back only). Upgrade prices and estimated delivery times will be forthcoming.

http://www.captureintegration.com/2010/10/18/aptus-ii-12-for-afihy6/


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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 09:21:43 AM »
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Estimated delivery in Q1 2011.
http://www.captureintegration.com/2010/10/18/aptus-ii-12-for-afihy6/
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 10:39:15 AM »
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Great news!
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 10:48:55 AM »
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Does this mean that you could use the back also on a Rollei 6008?  Or is that a completely different mount?
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 10:57:52 AM »
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Does this mean that you could use the back also on a Rollei 6008?  Or is that a completely different mount?

Completely different.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 11:06:05 AM »
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If I'm not mistaken, the AFi in the Hy6 incarnation, is still available from Sinar. I'll be very curious to hear about their upgrade policy and prices. Thanks for posting this!

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 01:35:54 PM »
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You can also get Hy6 directly from DHW, configured to accept Leaf batteries. 

http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/html/kontakt.html
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 02:34:39 PM »
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So could this also hint at being the new (old) camera Phase are working on but possibly with a Mamiya lens mount...?  Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 03:05:50 AM »
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A Mamiya lens mount wouldn't work on a 6x6 SLR like the AFi/Hy6 - none of the 645 lenses would focus to infinity.

But the idea is appealing if only for returning the interchangeable finders feature to the Mamiya/Phase 645 line!  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 09:50:04 AM »
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Great news! Not that I need or could afford one at the moment. What I and a lot of other afi/hy6 users would like now is a mount for the next generation of p65+ - type backs from phase...I want those long exposures!
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 05:21:57 PM »
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love to hear that as option for my artec with hy6 mount ....
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 05:53:44 AM »
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But the idea is appealing if only for returning the interchangeable finders feature to the Mamiya/Phase 645 line!  Smiley

The Hy6 already has interchangeable finders: waist level, 45 degree prism, and a 90 degree model.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 06:43:00 AM »
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The Hy6 already has interchangeable finders: waist level, 45 degree prism, and a 90 degree model.

I know; and believe me you are envied for it. I was just referring to gazwas' speculation that Phase/Mamiya might have a finger in this pie: "So could this also hint at being the new (old) camera Phase are working on but possibly with a Mamiya lens mount...? ". Those of us with a focal plane shutter preference, and Mamiya lenses, want the next PhaseOne camera to offer interchangeable finders.

I hope that dealers like Doug & Steve are relaying our views back to PhaseOne HQ...

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 09:39:11 AM »
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Huh??

Retrofit a Hy6 with a (6x6) focal plane shutter and change the mount from Rollei's Schneider & Zeiss programs to Mamiya (645) mount, all to put a a digital back which was already announced in Mamiya format onto a camera body with an interchangable viewfinder??

Hmmm...

Sorry, guys, but that won't work for a number of reasons.  Flange distances of the mounts, for starters.

*If* I were in the business of betting on adding interchangable viewfinders to the Mamiya, I'd have to go with the Contax 645 as the model for how they'd do it.

But back to topic -- Very glad to hear the AFi-II 12 news.  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 02:31:01 PM »
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Bradley, did you read the thread in full? I was the first one to immediately kill off the notion of Mamiya lens compatibility, or any involvement whatsoever by Mamiya/Phase, by pointing out that flange focal distance wouldn't work.

Having thoroughly deflated gazwas (sorry, man), I then merely went on to use his premise as a springboard to remind PhaseOne yet again that we'd love to have interchangeable finders. Never was I referring to the AFi/Hy6 as a basis for this to happen; that would be ludicrous.

Anyway...a revived Contax? Yeah, that would be lovely. But a better Mamiya would be even lovelier.

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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 03:03:30 PM »
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I did.  And you were.  (I didn't realize that precluded the possibility of any further comment on the matter.)

I simply felt the idea was surprising enough to warrant (additional) comment, with some specifics.

I agree--you did not suggest that the Hy6 would be the platform for further development.  I don't know what I might have said to make you think that...

Nor was my post was not suggesting a revival of the Contax by Phase, either (I think they have enough different brands to manage at the moment), merely suggesting that if I were them, and I wanted to add interchangeable finder capability to the Mamiya, I'd use the Contax as a good model for how to do it on the Mamiya.

It seems we're in agreement.  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2010, 03:19:47 AM »
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I did.  And you were.  (I didn't realize that precluded the possibility of any further comment on the matter.)

I simply felt the idea was surprising enough to warrant (additional) comment, with some specifics.

I agree--you did not suggest that the Hy6 would be the platform for further development.  I don't know what I might have said to make you think that...

Nor was my post was not suggesting a revival of the Contax by Phase, either (I think they have enough different brands to manage at the moment), merely suggesting that if I were them, and I wanted to add interchangeable finder capability to the Mamiya, I'd use the Contax as a good model for how to do it on the Mamiya.

It seems we're in agreement.   Smiley

OK that's cool, Bradley - we are in agreement. Smiley

I don't know what I might have said to make you think that...

I just got edgy when you used the words "Sorry, guys, but that won't work..." - guys plural seemed to refer to both gazwas + me. A small matter of phrasing. Then again if my original tangent from the Hy6 to Mamiya viewfinders had been expressed more clearly, we probably wouldn't got to this confusion. Sorry for wasting your time!

Ray
 
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2010, 04:38:51 PM »
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Just dropping in to say I'm thrilled by the availability of this back for the AFi....
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2010, 05:07:29 PM »
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Back to the drawing board with my theory then!   Undecided
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2010, 07:03:29 PM »
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Here's one idea: putting the new sensor in Leaf backs for the AFI was probably pretty simple: they had the back design (from the AFI 10), theymay have had some extra unusued "chassis", making it even easier. It gives Leaf a new "dominance" in a sector. The Leaf 12 gives them some high end publicity while Phase is busy retooling (perhaps) for some new back config.

As long as Leaf can sell enough of these to recoup the "specialty" costs of configuring for the AFI back, its not a bad way to sell some backs.

I seriously doubt there is any bigger, greater agenda at play here. Phase's collaboration with Schneider with lenses for the AFD suggest that Schneider is having to find a new home for their previously designed Rollei type lenses.

But as long as you can get AFI-12 back, lenses, and body support for the AFI, its pretty cool to be the belle of the ball for a while, however briefly.     
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