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« on: October 18, 2010, 01:15:23 PM »
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Does everyone know this place?

http://www.photoicon.com/modern_masters/44/

Rob C

EDIT: Snowdon's shot of Helem Mirren must be one of the sexiest ever. I've never forgotten it.


Whilst I'm at it:

http://www.newindustryarts.com

Have a look at the Bruno Aveillan reel for starters...
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 03:00:58 PM »
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Brilliant!!

Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 03:47:44 PM »
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Another one you may enjoy, Fred:

http://www.antoineverglas.com

The 'film' bit is interesting too; Karolina and Georgina Chapman.... what faces! You could spend all day with one lens and one location and not run out of material. No wonder they make so much.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 04:56:46 PM »
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Very good works Rob. Really enjoyed this photographer. He is in the same spirit as your photography I think.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2010, 04:07:42 AM »
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Very good works Rob. Really enjoyed this photographer. He is in the same spirit as your photography I think.



Fred, there's a lot to be said for your last sentence.

I'm not meaning that I am in his league, of course, what I mean is that by the very fact that I have collected so many photographer sites it becomes possible to see a consistency in 'look' that they all share. Whilst they do, of course, also differ, there is an undercurrent of feeling that's mutual. Were that not so, then I would not have been attracted to putting them into my set of Favourites. There are a zillion photographer sites out there and there is a reason that some are held and most rejected, never to be looked at again.

Rapport. (Again, you French have a word that just fits perfectly.)

;-)

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 08:30:44 AM »
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Yes rapport, o avoir rapport avec

Well, I think it has a lot to do with the presentation more than any other thing. What I always missed in your website are a little bigger pictures, specially with the nudes and women's shots.
I know that you did that because of copyrights but IMO a hundred and fifty pixels more of height would dramatically change the visual experience of your images.
I remember other forum members saying the same.
Now that weebly has implemented a non flash slide-show it's worth trying when you have time to loose.
You could just give it a try on one or two pics and see what happens.
Just my 1euro opinion.

Cheers.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2010, 09:48:05 AM »
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Ah yes... Where would we be without sex? Probably at the bottom of the ocean reproducing through mitosis.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2010, 11:59:10 AM »
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Yes rapport, o avoir rapport avec

Well, I think it has a lot to do with the presentation more than any other thing. What I always missed in your website are a little bigger pictures, specially with the nudes and women's shots.
I know that you did that because of copyrights but IMO a hundred and fifty pixels more of height would dramatically change the visual experience of your images.
I remember other forum members saying the same.
Now that weebly has implemented a non flash slide-show it's worth trying when you have time to loose.
You could just give it a try on one or two pics and see what happens.
Just my 1euro opinion.

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Hey, Fred, a euro is a euro!

I can try going a bit larger, then, with the Biscuit Tin stuff as more comes along; there, it's not as deadly a deal.

Actually, at the moment, it's ants. I watered the pots as well as those of my absent neighbour and some got on my sleeves and, consequently, onto my head, where they hide... outside, I think. I kill them as I find them.

Try this one:

http://www.diegofuga.com

I think you'll like him.

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2010, 12:43:13 PM »
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Yep, another good link. Thanks Rob.
Very good mastering of post prod, interesting overall approach. Creative guy!
Added in favorite.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2010, 04:42:47 PM »
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Yep, another good link. Thanks Rob.
Very good mastering of post prod, interesting overall approach. Creative guy!
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Okay - I don't know if you're clued up about the Brit scene of the 60s - but this guy is one of two dead members of the Terrible Three, which consisted of Bailey, Donovan and Duffy. Guess which this one is. (Joke.) Unfortunately, he lost most of his stuff in a self-inflicted bonfire of the vanities, when he destroyed his material in the garden in a bonfire. I know how he felt later on... His Bardot is one of the best I've seen anywhere - thank God it survived.

http://www.duffyphotographer.com

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 03:14:50 AM »
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Rob, there's something wrong. Each time I watch those masters I always have the same feeling over and over again: their images were much more powerfull than what I see today. Today I see extremely well acheived imagery but flat compared to what those guys where doing. It happens to me each time. Is it digital tech? Is it our politically correct society? Can't answer to that.
You pointed also the models and it's the same.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2010, 04:41:41 AM »
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Rob, there's something wrong. Each time I watch those masters I always have the same feeling over and over again: their images were much more powerfull than what I see today. Today I see extremely well acheived imagery but flat compared to what those guys where doing. It happens to me each time. Is it digital tech? Is it our politically correct society? Can't answer to that.
You pointed also the models and it's the same. Nowdays models are just boring compare to the "golden age figures".

Yesterday I was watching with great interest and surprise interviews of french actors like Lino Ventura etc...it was another story, and I think the imagery reflected that force that lacks so much today in many aspects and not only photography. Who can be at the height of an Ava Gardner now? Madona? She's a happy virgin in comparaison.

What the hell have we all lost in the path?

My italics.

Short answer? Nearly everything. But mostly, I think, sophistication. Now we have street cred as a substitute.

And we are losing species by the dozen all the time.

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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2010, 02:30:56 PM »
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To cheer you up, Fred.

http://www.gregkadelstudios.com

;-)

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2010, 05:01:22 PM »
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Minotaur-Ex!!!!   I'm enthralled....and  love the way it moved through from bw to an almost tritone cyanotype ....( the wolves took me back to Kurosawa...) thank you for this treat... p.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2010, 05:58:02 PM »
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Rob, there's something wrong. Each time I watch those masters I always have the same feeling over and over again: their images were much more powerfull than what I see today. Today I see extremely well acheived imagery but flat compared to what those guys where doing. It happens to me each time. Is it digital tech? Is it our politically correct society? Can't answer to that.
You pointed also the models and it's the same. Nowdays models are just boring compare to the "golden age figures".

Yesterday I was watching with great interest and surprise interviews of french actors like Lino Ventura etc...it was another story, and I think the imagery reflected that force that lacks so much today in many aspects and not only photography. Who can be at the height of an Ava Gardner now? Madona? She's a happy virgin in comparaison.

What the hell have we all lost in the path?

99% of everything is shit (quote from numerous people), but we tend to forget all but the remaining 1% - so when we're watching movies like Casablanca, we forget that it was one of literally tens of similar movies produced just that year alone, and the only one we remember. I think it was Lauren Bacall who said that everything just clicked with that production.

Same goes for models and actors, we forget the bad ones - hell, we don't even get to see them since the bad movies are not even in circulation anymore, unless they're Plan 9 From Outer Space bad.

I guarantee that 50 years from now people reminisce about Scarlett Johansson, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney and Johnny Depp with the same reverence as we do about Ava Gardner, Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant and Bogie. I'd go as far as say that the people in the former list are already at their level - different eras and different styles, of course.

Disappointment in today's culture (and youth) is as old as history itself. It is very difficult to have a bird's eye view of today's culture as we live in it. We will only fully appreciate it when time fades the glaring mistakes and allows the casablancas of today to really shine.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2010, 04:30:10 AM »
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Minotaur-Ex!!!!   I'm enthralled....and  love the way it moved through from bw to an almost tritone cyanotype ....( the wolves took me back to Kurosawa...) thank you for this treat... p.




Nice to see folks enjoy it; sometimes you find these sites and before you know it, the night has turned into dawn. Not often, but enough to encourage one to hope and dream. What else is there?

The 'wolves' almost had me in tears at the end.

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2010, 04:39:23 AM »
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I guarantee that 50 years from now people reminisce about Scarlett Johansson, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney and Johnny Depp with the same reverence as we do about Ava Gardner, Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant and Bogie. I'd go as far as say that the people in the former list are already at their level - different eras and different styles, of course.

Disappointment in today's culture (and youth) is as old as history itself. It is very difficult to have a bird's eye view of today's culture as we live in it. We will only fully appreciate it when time fades the glaring mistakes and allows the casablancas of today to really shine.


You might be right, but I don't think so.

To tell the truth, I can't even draw up a mental picture of Scarlett even though I know about her and even about some of her perfume ads, quite distinct and beyond the movies. Jolie? Again, forgotten in the bat of an eye or a swollen lip. It may be a generation thing, but if anything, the immediacy of these people has robbed them of the myth, and it's the myths that travel well through time. How long has Elvis been gone? Yet, even those not then born know about him and the sound; ditto Chuck Berry who is still with us. And that's just pop culture. We have no Shakespeares any more; just Pulp Fictionists.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2010, 07:35:27 AM »
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"The 'wolves' almost had me in tears at the end."

Rob...the eye contact and shoulder set of the wolves toward the end was the instant onset of tears for for me...frame by frame raw power...cathartic sobs of nature...
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2010, 09:48:54 AM »
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"The 'wolves' almost had me in tears at the end."

Rob...the eye contact and shoulder set of the wolves toward the end was the instant onset of tears for for me...frame by frame raw power...cathartic sobs of nature...


I have absolutely no idea how they managed to shoot that stuff; it made me realise just how little I know about photography at that level. If my life depended upon it I couldn't even begin to figure out a 'how to'.

Glad you enjoyed it. A good weep is part of being human, whoever or whatever you are.

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2010, 02:32:14 PM »
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You might be right, but I don't think so.

To tell the truth, I can't even draw up a mental picture of Scarlett even though I know about her and even about some of her perfume ads, quite distinct and beyond the movies. Jolie? Again, forgotten in the bat of an eye or a swollen lip. It may be a generation thing, but if anything, the immediacy of these people has robbed them of the myth, and it's the myths that travel well through time. How long has Elvis been gone? Yet, even those not then born know about him and the sound; ditto Chuck Berry who is still with us. And that's just pop culture. We have no Shakespeares any more; just Pulp Fictionists.

Rob, you'll soon take the crown from Mr Schewe as the official forum curmudgeon since he seems to have calmed down Tongue

This is obviously not the forum for this, but it sounds like you're not a film buff. If you were, you'd definitely heard and would remember both of those women from their numerous high-profile movies, as well as some of the less-well known gems they've been in. Anyway, not the point.

One thing that does play an important role in all this is that entertainment is more fragmented than in the past. There are more ways to spend our time and money on during our free time, so niches - such as horror movies, 1st person shooter games, or snowboarding - thrive. Each of these niches have their own celebrities, and some people will only be familiar with their own niche's celebs. That's partly to blame for the lack of truly universal worldwide celebs these days, although the people I listed come close, along with a handful of "super"models from the 90s known by their first name (Christy, Cindy, Tyra, Naomi in that order Smiley ), and a few sports personas who I couldn't care less about.

As for modern Shakespeares, writers and directors such as Kubrick, Arthur Miller and Philip K. Dick are already studied widely in world's universities. Obviously they haven't reached the same level of universal praise as Shakespeare. Yet.

We'll always have celebs from days gone by who are sooo much better than what we have today, or oh-the-shock-and-horror what the kids today follow. Not to mention cameras, motorcycles, etc.
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